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When was the last time you realized that you—not your team—were part of the leadership problem?

That realization can be painful, but it can also begin your most important growth.

In this episode, Dr. Lisa DeVore, United States Air Force veteran and author of Pawprints on Leadership, shares how she confronted a low-empathy leadership moment and chose to grow from it.

We discuss how authoritarian leadership models can cause us to prioritize rules and results over people, why reflection and apology matter, and how emotional intelligence and active listening make us better leaders.

Lisa also explores the importance of followership and the lessons she learned from Bailey, her service dog—including the powerful truth that sometimes the person leading us has no title or words, just greater awareness.

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Connect with Dr. Lisa DeVore

Book — Pawprints on Leadership: [https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0G2L2VZ89?ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_SAMWGJ2YXEZ7DBNCB1PP&bestFormat=true]

LinkedIn: [Dr. Lisa DeVore, PMP, SSM | LinkedIn]

Chapters

00:00 — Welcome and Guest Introduction
02:49 — Lisa’s Air Force-to-Space Force Path
04:21 — Owning a Low-Empathy Leadership Moment
07:15 — How Authoritarian Models Shaped Her
08:41 — Why a Trusted Teammate Stayed
12:51 — Followership as a Leadership Skill
16:32 — Letting Bailey Lead When It Matters
18:29 — Pause, Observe, and Give Yourself Grace
20:01 — Where to Find Lisa and Final Sendoff

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