When the Best Benefits Can't Be Justified by a Spreadsheet
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Summary
What do you do when the best benefits can't be justified by a spreadsheet? In this episode of Beyond the Paycheck, host Kelsey Willock Jones talks with Ann Meyers Piccirillo, CHRO of JDA TSG, about growing a company from 100 to 13,000 employees and building benefits for a workforce most benefits systems forget. Ann shares her case for strategic ROI alongside quantitative ROI, told through the surprise success of grandparent leave; the concierge healthcare experiment that went unused for two years and what its failure revealed about what employees really want; and the cafeteria-style healthcare plan she's building for seasonal workers, anchored in telehealth. A conversation for HR and benefits leaders who want to design for the people they actually employ.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and meet Ann Meyers Piccirillo
01:45 A paper route and a first paycheck spent on candy
03:30 Opening doors for a seasonal workforce
06:45 Telehealth and building a cafeteria plan
09:45 Grandparent leave and meeting people where they are
12:00 Strategic ROI vs the spreadsheet
14:45 The benefits experiment nobody used
18:15 Positioning back office teams as revenue drivers
21:45 AI as a coworker, people as the differentiator
25:15 Tap yourself: don't wait for permission
Takeaways
-Strategic ROI belongs alongside quantitative ROI: benefits like grandparent leave cost money and return nothing measurable, yet convert into productivity, loyalty, and referrals over time.
-Fight for the benefits you believe in before the financial return shows up, because strategic return translates into financial return.
-A concierge discount healthcare package went essentially unused for two years because employees didn't want to be their own benefits broker; they wanted a traditional, trusted network model.
-Negative feedback is the clearest signal you'll get: people speak up loudly about what they don't like, and that clarity is shaping the next iteration of the benefits plan.
-For seasonal and hourly workers locked out of traditional coverage, a cafeteria-style plan anchored in telehealth plus validated point solutions can close the healthcare gap.
Connect with the Guest
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/annpiccirillo/
Website: https://www.jdatsg.com
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