What if the thing you call "rest" is actually the thing keeping you stuck? Miles Harris and Chris get brutally honest about the everyday escapes that quietly take over your life - food, sports, scrolling, work, even religious activity - and how to tell when a healthy break has become a hiding place.

Miles opens up about what he reaches for when life gets hard, from disc golf and stress eating to the deeper urge to disappear when pressure builds. Chris pushes the conversation further, showing how even good things can become dangerous when they start replacing prayer, hard conversations, confession, or the responsibilities you actually need to face.

You’ll discover:

• How to spot the line between healthy relief and unhealthy escape
• Why some of your most "spiritual" habits may still be avoidance
• The difference between rest that restores you and activity that numbs you
• A simple way to take one or two real steps toward what actually helps
• Why seclusion can be wise if you leave with intention and come back changed

Miles and Chris also connect this to real life in ministry, parenting, and family pressure, including the temptation for pastors to bury hard feelings under busy work and the way kids can expose exactly how much grace we still need. They talk candidly about the cost of isolation, the danger of letting hobbies or obligations become captives, and the importance of choosing what leads to lasting peace instead of temporary distraction.

If you’ve ever said "I just needed that" but weren’t sure whether it truly helped, this conversation will hit home. Essential listening for anyone who wants to stop escaping and start responding with wisdom, honesty, and grace.

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