Real estate investing looks simple online but what happens when you actually start raising capital, managing investor expectations, and underwriting multifamily deals?

In this episode of When Real Estate Gets Real, Stephen Lee Thomas sits down with Ray Woods, a real estate investor, engineer, cybersecurity professional, and entrepreneur building across wholesaling, Airbnb, multifamily, and real estate technology.

Ray shares how his first wholesale deal changed the way he looked at money, why reinvesting into the business mattered, and what investors often misunderstand about scaling into multifamily syndication.

This conversation also gets into the responsibility of managing investor capital, why communication matters when deals go wrong, and how Ray is building a syndication app to help investors underwrite deals more clearly.

What You’ll Learn:

• How Ray moved from engineering into real estate investing
• What he learned from his first wholesale checks
• Why managing money is different from earning money
• What changes when you start raising investor capital
• Why communication protects credibility in tough deals
• How better underwriting can help syndicators avoid bad deals
• Why patience matters in multifamily investing

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Website: https://tinyurl.com/rewithray

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realestatewithrayy/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RealEstateWithRay?sub_confirmation=1

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@realestatewithray

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What happens when you make millions early… then lose almost everything?

In this episode of When Real Estate Gets Real, Stephen Lee Thomas sits down with Lawrence Dunning former MMA fighter turned real estate broker, investor, and developer who shares his raw, unfiltered journey through success, failure, and rebuilding.

From trading floors in Chicago to losing money in the 2009 crash… to navigating bad partnerships and lawsuits… Lawrence breaks down the real lessons most people never talk about.

This episode goes beyond tactics it’s about resilience, identity, and finding your place in real estate.

What You’ll Learn:

• Why early success can actually set you up for failure
• How to find your niche in real estate (and why it takes time)
• The biggest mistakes new investors make
• How to evaluate partnerships the right way
• Why hardship makes you better in business and life

Key Highlights:

• Transitioning from trading to real estate
• Losing money and rebuilding from scratch
• Lessons from a failed development partnership
• The importance of intuition in business decisions
• How real estate development transforms communities

Guest: Lawrence Dunning Broker | Investor | Developer | Former MMA Fighter

Ways to connect with Lawrence Dunning

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrence-dunning-mba-2b97a120

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawrencedunning

Webiste: https://enterthelionheart.com

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Commercial real estate has changed dramatically over the last few years but is today’s market really like 2008?

In this episode of When Real Estate Gets Real, Stephen Lee Thomas sits down with Jacob Clopton, founder and president of Clopton Capital, to unpack what’s happening in commercial real estate financing, debt markets, insurance, solar, capital raising, and multifamily syndication.

Jacob shares why today’s challenges are less about a lack of liquidity and more about leverage, interest rates, and cost of capital. He also explains what early-stage syndicators should understand about raising capital, building a team, and avoiding the trap of trying to do everything alone.

What You’ll Learn:

• How today’s market compares to 2008
• Why many multifamily deals are struggling despite strong occupancy
• What commercial real estate debt looks like right now
• How Clopton Capital supports investors across financing, insurance, sourcing, solar, and 1031 services
• Why first-time syndicators should focus on direct investor relationships
• The importance of delegation when scaling a real estate business

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Website: https://cloptoncapital.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakeclopton1

Youtube: www.youtube.com/@cloptoncapital3417

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