What's next for the Ontario Liberal Party and Kathleen Wynne?
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We talk about the future of the party she led and what's in the cards for her immediate future?
Ontario’s Liberal leadership race is about more than choosing a new leader. In this conversation, Kathleen argues the party needs to use the contest to demonstrate what it actually stands for — and, more importantly, what it would actually do.
With the final leadership vote coming in November, she says Liberals need to move beyond criticism of Doug Ford and offer practical, understandable solutions to problems confronting Ontario. She points specifically to education, post-secondary funding, OSAP, healthcare and the reliance on agency nurses. The leadership race, she argues, provides an opportunity to position the party as a credible problem solver rather than simply an opposition voice.
Kathleen draws a parallel to 2003, when Dalton McGuinty and his team developed practical responses to problems they believed had been created under the Harris government. She suggests the next Liberal leader could follow the leadership contest with some form of policy convention — taking the strongest ideas from the campaign and turning them into a broader conversation about the party’s direction.
The conversation also provides an insider’s perspective on leadership campaigns themselves. Kathleen recalls the unusual challenge of debating people who are political competitors but also friends and future colleagues. Winning an internal race, she says, means eventually working with the candidates, their supporters, MPPs and riding associations — making it important to keep lines of communication open.
Then the conversation becomes decidedly more personal.
Kathleen explains her decision to step back from regular media commitments after decades immersed in politics and public life.
She talks about family, grandchildren, teaching, aging, the demands of caregiving and her desire to be more spontaneously available to the people who matter to her.
It becomes a thoughtful farewell conversation about politics, family, careers — and the costs that come with choosing where to spend our time.
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