In this episode, Richard Devine sits down with family law barrister Gemma Chapman to explore the intersection between social work, family justice and advocacy.

Gemma shares her journey into family law, what she enjoys most about being a barrister, and some of the challenges that come with working in a complex and emotionally demanding field. Together, we discuss what makes an effective social worker, the qualities of a strong social work expert witness, and the common pitfalls practitioners can encounter when giving evidence in court.

The conversation also examines an important distinction often misunderstood in practice: the difference between disclosure and allegations, and why this matters for assessment, decision-making and safeguarding children.

We explore the role of legal representation within the family justice system, including how barristers advocate for clients while balancing professional duties and ethical responsibilities. Finally, Gemma reflects on the changes she would like to see in how services support children and families and offers valuable advice for social workers appearing in court.

A thought-provoking conversation for social workers, managers, legal professionals, students, and anyone interested in improving outcomes for children and families.

Key themes:

• Family justice and advocacy
• Giving evidence in court
• What makes an effective social worker
• Social Work Expert Witnesses (SWETs)
• Disclosure versus allegations
• Working alongside legal professionals
• Supporting children and families
• Learning from practice and experience

Guest: Gemma Chapman, Family Law Barrister