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Envy is the emotion we skip past — too ugly for public consumption, too petty for someone who has built a life she chose. But what if envy is the most honest compass we have?

In this episode, Lisa explores the one thing she envies — and it's not a title, a trip, or a career milestone. It's the ability to rest without guilt. Starting with the gendered double standard around unplugging, she traces the thread from a system that rewards women for overavailability, to a postdoc praised for being always on the grid, to a girl in school who learned that stillness meant falling behind. And then she tells the story of a woman she met on the Nile who changed how she thinks about all of it.

This is an episode about the phone you check before your feet hit the floor, the fear underneath the checking, and what happens when you stop treating envy as a character flaw and start treating it as instructions.

Soul to Soul with Dr. Lisa Carter-Bawa is a podcast for anyone who is in the middle of becoming — doing the inner work, asking the harder questions, and learning to live from the inside out.

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