In this episode of B*tch, Listen, Imani Gandy has a theory: Medicaid coverage for abortion collapses first, even in states where Democrats hold power. Christina Chang, who runs Reproductive Freedom Alliance, the 24-governor coalition fighting to keep abortion access alive post-Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, isn't so sure it's about abortion specifically, but rather funding for the poor generally.

Gandy and Chang get into what the alliance has accomplished: shield laws protecting providers, states funding abortion out of their own pockets, and strategy sharing among alliance members. Then, Gandy brings up Michigan, a Democratic trifecta that still couldn't fund abortion coverage—but Chang isn't ready to call it a pattern.

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