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We've Got To Talk

We've Got To Talk

著者: Nicole Fonarow and Jolene Conway
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Our story begins in the halls of the University of Iowa, go Hawks! It was there that two seemingly different paths intersected and a friendship blossomed. Despite our different upbringings—Jolene in little Pleasantville, Iowa, and me, Nicole, just across the Golden Gate Bridge in the bustling Bay Area—we became fast friends. And here we are, almost 40 years later, living in a world that often seems intent on drawing lines in the sand and choosing sides. So why "We've Got To Talk"? Because we truly believe that in this deeply divided society, the power of conversation can unite us. Our goal isn't to change each other's opinions, but to listen with curiosity, kindness, and empathy. And yes, to have a good time while doing it! We invite you to join us on this journey and bring your friends along. We might not have all the answers or any of them—but we promise honesty, empathy, and a lot of heart. We hope our conversations give you a fresh outlook or at least entertain you as you go about your day.Copyright 2026 Nicole Fonarow and Jolene Conway 政治・政府 政治学 社会科学
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  • What an Australian Really Thinks of America
    2026/08/05
    Social media algorithms are shaping how the world sees America, and it’s not pretty. In this episode, we ask a simple question people are searching for everywhere right now: what does the rest of the world think of Americans when the only thing they see is viral outrage? To get a real outside perspective, we have brought in our Australian producer and editor, Brianna Ansaldo, who has spent the last 18 months editing our conversations and absorbing American news from a distance.Brianna’s take is blunt and familiar to anyone who’s ever Googled “How America is viewed overseas” or “why does the world think America is violent.” When Australians picture the US, two images rise to the top fast: guns and healthcare. School shootings and a healthcare system that can bankrupt you dominate what makes it through the feed. At the same time, she says Americans as individuals often come across as warm, funny, and generous, which makes the contrast even more jarring.The big reveal is where that impression comes from. It’s not cable news. It’s not newspapers. It’s Social Media. Brianna explains that if she wants to know what’s happening in America, she scrolls and lets the algorithm decide, which is exactly how a lot of younger people get their news now. That means the “America” being exported is curated by an engagement engine built for outrage, fear, and spectacle, not by journalists weighing what matters. If you’ve searched “how TikTok algorithms influence politics” or “why social media makes everything worse,” this conversation will feel uncomfortably accurate.Finally, Brianna compares the US political system to Australia’s, where voting is compulsory and party differences can feel less extreme. She’s baffled by the size of the gap between Republicans and Democrats, and by the way Americans often treat party loyalty like identity. We take a look at what that does to trust, nuance, and civic life, and why America isn’t as divided as the highlight reel suggests, but also isn’t totally fine. The algorithm isn’t lying; it’s just repeating the loudest version until it feels like the whole truth.CHAPTER MARKERS:00:00 Intro00:31 Introducing producer Brianna Ansaldo04:07 Australia's take on American guns05:11 The broken healthcare system in USA06:52 Has Trump-era coverage of America spiked?09:08 Why TikTok is the real news source12:02 Has Brianna’s perspective on U.S. politics shifted?13:36 Australia's parliamentary system explained16:20 Compulsory voting in Australia22:31 Australia's take on AI and data centers23:31 The World Cup's surprising ripple effect30:29 Being tired of talking about Trump38:17 Is Trump secretly good for America?RESOURCES MENTIONED:Brianna Ansaldo - Bamby Media:https://www.bambymedia.com/Brianna Carpenter Australian Idol Days: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2v4rlPauline Hanson, Australian One Nation Candidate: https://youtu.be/R6oVBLKbzjg?si=NM9SWWkjhGMDRp0OStephen Hawkins: More In Common, WGTT episode: https://youtu.be/GpcXMoW2vcg?si=W-JZt-9sGnhqCXAOJulia Gillard, first Australian female prime minister: https://australian.museum/publications/200-treasures-of-the-australian-museum/100-people/julia-gillard/Jacinda Ardern, New Zealand Prime Ministerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDtBqvfm7vYAussie Perspective of World Cup/Trump/Spanish Football Team:https://youtu.be/yK8yMMelqMw?si=F6BVMX7XDKTJ53gFI’ve Had It: https://youtube.com/@ivehaditpodcast?si=cWfNZGsLYrDfIbznGood For The Soul:https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/212070792-music-as-medicineOur Website:https://www.wevegottotalk.com/LINKS:On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalkOn Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/
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  • We Answered Your Political Questions
    2026/07/29
    Why does it feel like two-thirds of the country has completely checked out of the political process? In this special mailbag episode, Jolene and I step up to answer your political questions, breaking down everything from White House budgeting issues to local primary election shocks. We take an honest, unvarnished look at the real-world feedback filling our inbox, proving that a liberal and a conservative can unpack highly polarized topics with total respect, deep curiosity, and zero filtering.We jump straight into the controversy surrounding the $600 million White House ballroom renovation project. We look at the actual reality behind this massive infrastructure project, exploring why Trump's typical "bull in a china shop" style triggers immediate media panic even when certain facility updates are legitimately required for national security. We talk about what seems like a total breakdown of standard Request for Proposals (RFP) protocols, look at the cost-plus budgeting system, and share our mutual frustration over government contracts handed down to political insider buddies.There are also the surprising results of the recent New York primary, where an organized wave of Democratic Socialists completely dominated local platforms. I (Nicole) share a vital reality check on how a tiny 5% to 8% voter turnout completely skews our democratic representation, allowing fringe extremes on both sides of the aisle to capture the narrative while the "exhausted majority" sits on the sidelines. We also tackle a highly specific foreign aid dilemma, discussing the global stakes of tracking Ebola and medical research funding against the systemic fraud within programs like USAID.Finally, we reveal the top three takeaways we want to see implemented in high school civics curriculum to save the next generation from toxic polarization. From teaching the active, lost art of deep listening to designing classroom frameworks around real-world compromise and pocket Constitutions, we map out a practical path back to institutional decorum. CHAPTER MARKERS: 00:00 Intro 00:01:26 The $600M White House ballroom. 00:01:59 Going around Congress for funding. 00:02:40 Government bidding and RFP processes. 00:03:15 Giving contracts to political buddies. 00:04:06 Trump's image-driven leadership style. 00:05:50 Picking our dream impossible guests. 00:08:22 Reading the Bible at college. 00:10:08 Stephen Hawkins on polarization data. 00:12:45 Shaking up the NY primary. 00:14:12 Fixing our massive polarization problem. 00:14:37 The truth about the exhausted majority. 00:15:18 Low primary turnout ruins choices. 00:17:35 Remaking high school civics classes. 00:18:31 Tracking public education's rapid decline. 00:19:42 Fraud and waste in USAID. 00:20:18 The power of foreign aid. 00:22:48 Taking a chainsaw to government. 00:25:13 How this podcast changed us. 00:28:05 Unpacking pro-life and pro-choice stances. 00:29:41 Understanding the psychology of gun owners. 00:31:09 How social media monetizes anger. 00:33:55 The reality of money and power. 00:39:48 Shifting gears for the midterms. 00:43:05 Would You RatherRESOURCES MENTIONED:David French Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQSKSrQfw78 The Stephen Hawkins Research Profile: https://www.moreincommon.com/our-work/research/)Stephen Hawkins Interview: https://youtu.be/GpcXMoW2vcgThe White House Ballroom Renovation Project: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-dc-reflecting-pool-renovation-white-house-ballroom-triumphal-arch/ WGTT Switching News Sources for 10 days: https://youtu.be/5wtPeP8XwAk?si=mNyBqXYbdpk-kJD7 Monica Guzmán Interview: https://youtu.be/DqoLxk0-YqkThe Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Civic Engagement Report: Check out the direct tracking metrics on national primary voter turnouts and participation dips: https://www.cbo.gov/ Our Website:https://www.wevegottotalk.com/ LINKS:On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalkOn Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weve-got-to-talk/id1797423701On Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0qJVgTvjciUffRmoUienx2How to find Nicole https://nicolefonarow.com/How to find Jolene https://dibledough.com/
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    47 分
  • Why is there no accountability on Capitol Hill?
    2026/07/22
    Accountability on Capitol Hill should be a given, but why is it that Congress feels immune to the standards the rest of us live by? It’s easy to see why voters across the political spectrum are fed up. If you’ve ever searched “why is Congress so ineffective,” “why don’t politicians get fired,” or “why is Washington so broken,” we’re discussing a lot of these questions in this episode.We start with the basics that should not be controversial: show up, do the job, and act like public service is actually service. We talk about the shift from a five-day work week to a three-day work week in Washington, D.C. and how that change fuels polarization by killing real relationship-building. Less time together means less trust, more performative politics, and a system that rewards soundbites over solutions.Then we get into two issues people constantly Google and argue about: stock trading for politicians and the budget process. Why are members of Congress allowed to trade stocks while writing laws that move markets? How do so many politicians become millionaires on a $175,000 salary? And why are continuing resolutions and government shutdown threats still being used like a weapon instead of passing a real budget like adults?Finally, we talk about the human cost of all of this. When elected officials disappear for weeks or months, miss votes, and hide behind vague explanations, it creates chaos and destroys trust. Mental health matters, but accountability matters too. If we want decency, transparency, and real consequences back in government, it may have to come from voters, not from the institution protecting itself.CHAPTER MARKERS:00:00 Intro00:28 Accountability on Capitol Hill. Congressional accountability and public trust01:07 Three Fixes for Congress.02:59 When politicians disappear and voters get no answers08:19 Party loyalty, scandals, and “winning at all costs”12:12 Reform Ideas. Term limits, ballot initiatives, and constitutional amendments15:24 Money and Power in Washington.17:50 Decency and Bipartisanship. Exhausted majority and Future Caucus hope20:07 Israel and Antisemitism. Nuance, party distrust, and black and white politics27:54 Rethinking the Congress Workweek. 5 day vs 3 day schedule and polarization30:34 Attendance and Accountability. Show up, vote, and do the job31:48 Fixing the Federal Budget Process. Continuing resolutions and shutdown threatsRESOURCES MENTIONED:Lindsey Graham: https://apnews.com/article/lindsey-graham-dies-south-carolina-bfa556e170f2df22ce9ffc7165da3dfaTom Kean:https://www.statnews.com/2026/06/30/republican-tom-kean-jr-reveals-depression-after-absence-from-congress/End Congressional Stock Trading Act (H.R. 1908, 119th Congress)https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1908Reps. Ocasio-Cortez, Roy, and Magaziner on insider trading legislation (C-SPAN)https://www.c-span.org/program/news-conference/reps-ocasio-cortez-roy-and-magaziner-speak-to-reporters-on-insider-trading-legislation/665092We’ve Got To Talk David French Episode https://youtu.be/JQSKSrQfw78?si=G2PBvuhr0fHAF9sY Future Caucus (formerly Millennial Action Project)https://futurecaucus.org/Congressional Future Caucushttps://futurecaucus.org/future-caucus/congressional-future-caucus/How America Got Mean (David Brooks, The Atlantic)https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2023/09/us-culture-moral-education-formation/674765/We’ve Got To Talk Episode (David Brooks Article) https://youtu.be/qydEt3wbPXQ?si=DYQlKg1y4b1UlS6QDavid Brooks: How America Recovers from All This (Yale Jackson School event page)https://events.jackson.yale.edu/event/david-brooks-yale-conversations-040726David Brooks: How America Recovers from All This (video)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YRTSA9q-6MJames Talarico (official site)https://jamestalarico.com/In Israel, Rahm Emanuel Calls for End of Unconditional U.S. Support (NYT)https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/07/us/politics/rahm-emanuel-speech-israel.htmlCongress Schedule Opinion https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/388007-lawmakers-to-help-repair-our-polarized-congress-make-dc-your-home/Congress Schedule https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/TE10041?utm_source=We’ve Got To Talk Episode Brad Porteus of Bridge Grades ttps://youtu.be/Pq5BYIgxJvw?si=DzRop48P67TlNGH_Bridge Grades (Brad Porteus) – Abouthttps://www.bridgegrades.org/aboutBridge Grades (main site)https://www.bridgegrades.org/We’ve Got To Talk Tipping and Rating Episode:https://youtu.be/Ou1CVCXOaXo?si=atxMn3OKK0GUFFIANYTimes Bruce Feiler Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/15/opinion/ritual-connection-meaning-community.html?unlocked_article_code=1.zVA.mxMX.F7_TlmWqQfUX&smid=url-shareWhat Is an Honor Walk (organ donation tradition, Lifebanc)https://www.lifebanc.org/community-partners/hospitals-medical-professionals/the-hoor-walk/Our Website:https://www.wevegottotalk.com/LINKS:On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/wevegottotalk/ On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WeveGotToTalkOn Apple ...
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