Ep. 427 - OU Fall Camp Questions & the Brent Venables Reality Check

Our Fall Camp preview poses unanswerable questions at this time. Will Trell Harris make it through fall camp healthy? Can OU’s RB room get to Week 1 without a wave of injuries? Which position group could produce a surprise camp star, and more!

Later, we take a deeper look at Brent Venables through four seasons at Oklahoma. How does Venables compare historically to other first-time head coaches? Is there a realistic national championship blueprint for Venables based on college football history?

The episode closes with a detailed conversation about the idea that Lincoln Riley “left the cupboard bare” when he departed Oklahoma. Lee and Grant revisit the 2022 roster, including Dillon Gabriel, Eric Gray, Marvin Mims, Brayden Willis, Anton Harrison, Tyler Guyton, Wanya Morris and others, and debate whether OU’s 6-7 season in Venables’ first year was really about talent, culture, coaching, injuries, or all of the above.

Chapters/Timecodes

00:00 — Opening Take – Fall Camp is upon us 06:05 — Will Trell Harris make it through fall camp healthy? 12:29 — What makes a true No. 1 wide receiver? 15:14 — National title expectations vs. where OU actually is 17:48 — Can Oklahoma get to UTEP with a healthy running back room? 21:25 — Which position group could produce a surprise camp superstar? 29:25 — Could Bowe Bentley win the backup quarterback job? 33:16 — If Mateer gets hurt again, can OU trust its QB2? 35:04 — Remembering backup quarterbacks from the Lincoln Riley era 41:17 — Side quest to talk about Lincoln Riley at Big Ten Media Days 43:05 — Will OU’s offense ever have its way with the defense in fall camp? 46:41 — Health is still the No. 1 fall camp priority 48:28 — Brent Venables first four seasons at OU in perspective 53:01 — Comparing first-time OU head coaches through four seasons 57:12 — Is there a national championship blueprint for Venables? 01:02:08 — Where Venables ranks among first-time head coaches historically 01:05:01 — Random detour: Charlie Weis, Notre Dame and college football YouTube rabbit holes 01:08:43 — Revisiting Lee and Grant’s initial reaction to Venables being hired 01:10:44 — OU’s 2022 floor should have been higher than 6-7 01:14:52 — Did Lincoln Riley really gut the program? 01:23:19 — Why the 2022 offense was the most functional part of the team 01:25:37 — Comparing OU’s 2021 offensive personnel to the 2022 offense 01:28:24 — Defensive roster comparison from 2021 to 2022 01:29:54 — What “cupboard was bare” may actually mean 01:34:00 — Offensive red flags heading into 2026

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Ep. 428 - John Mateer’s Championship Chance and Fall Camp is Here!

John Mateer’s got an incredible opportunity to win a National Championship this season. He’s got the defense, but what must he and the offense do in order for the Sooners to win Number 8?

The guys react to early Fall Camp video and practice buzz. Topics include Courtland Guillory’s impressive clips, David Stone’s dominance, Trent Wilson’s development, defensive line depth, PJ Adebawore’s role, Michael Boganowski becoming more technical, safety depth concerns and the possibility that OU’s defense may be even better in 2026.

On offense, the conversation shifts to Deland McCullough and the running back room. We liked his comments about yards after contact. Thoughts on Tory Blaylock and Trell Harris, a possible surprise wide receiver may break out, and will Jason Witten influence Ben Arbuckle’s offense so much that the style changes?

Plus brief thoughts on the Coaches Poll, the new five-year eligibility ruling, Taylor Tatum’s departure from Michigan, and more hot Lincoln Riley/Brent Venables talk!

Chapters/Timecodes

00:00 — Opening Take – John Mateer’s massive opportunity 05:03 — Week Zero is getting close 07:12 — Fall Camp practice videos, a lot has stood out to Grant 08:10 — Deacon Schmitt may be ready to play early 08:31 — Manny Choice looks the part physically 09:00 — Cole Sullivan’s length and Austin Stogner flashbacks 09:34 — Courtland Guillory’s aura and defensive back clips 11:00 — Deland McCullough’s running back drill philosophy 12:38 — Why “yards after contact” matters for OU’s run game 15:07 — Tight ends, receivers and who looks comfortable in practice clips 17:04 — Running back talk begins with Lloyd Avant and Xavier Robinson 19:00 — Lee declares he’s not concerned with the D-line depth 21:00 — Trent Wilson as a potential breakout defensive lineman 25:00 — Defensive tackle depth and the benefit of the doubt for OU’s defensive staff 26:13 — Jayden Jackson and the question of durability 30:00 — Venables downplaying defensive line strength 30:56 — Edge rusher questions behind the defensive line hype 32:00 — PJ Adebawore entering a huge season 35:00 — Defensive front possibilities and pressure packages 36:00 — Michael Boganowski becoming more technical 37:00 — Safety play, deep passing concerns and OU’s secondary 44:00 — Peyton Bowen, Reggie Powers and young safety depth 46:00 — Linebacker depth behind Kip Lewis and Owen Heinecke 51:00 — Length on the edge and disrupting screens 54:41 — YouTube community poll: which offensive position group worries fans most? 56:00 — Tory Blaylock not available for Practice number 3 57:00 — Lloyd Avant appears to be RB1 if the game were tomorrow 01:00:00 — Lloyd Avant’s experience at Tulsa and Colorado State 01:01:00 — Avant’s wiggle, burst and potential fit at Oklahoma 01:03:00 — Xavier Robinson’s instant impact when healthy 01:04:00 — Deland McCullough compares Lloyd Avant to Damien Williams 01:06:00 — Trell Harris participates in individual drills with cameras present 01:10:10 — John Mateer says Manny Choice has grown a lot 01:15:07 — Tight end room discussion begins 01:15:28 — Hayden Hansen as a massive blocking presence 01:15:48 — Gabe Ikard’s interest in OU running out of 12 personnel 01:17:06 — Jason Witten’s influence on Oklahoma’s tight ends 01:19:47 — Ben Arbuckle’s Washington State personnel usage 01:23:32 — Is Arbuckle’s run scheme good enough? 01:28:54 — Offensive line thoughts and remaining offensive questions 01:30:11 — Grant’s frustration with OU’s transfer portal approach 01:31:58 — Oklahoma ranked No. 9 in the preseason coaches poll 01:32:58 — Five-year eligibility ruling and possible roster impacts 01:34:49 — Would Jaren Kanak help OU if he could return? 01:35:36 — Taylor Tatum no longer with Michigan 01:37:14 — Responding to Brady Trantham’s rebuttal to the Venables/Lincoln Riley debate 01:40:25 — Why that debate still matters today

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Ep. 429 – A Potentially Crushing Injury Overshadows a Good Week of Practice

Lee and Grant react to the report that Oklahoma center Jake Maikkula was injured during the Sooners’ first full scrimmage of fall camp. The guys discuss what Maikkula means to the offensive line, why center is such a difficult position to replace, and what Caleb Nitta and true freshman Noah Best could bring if Oklahoma must adjust up front.

There was actually a lot of good news this week as there’s suddenly Elijah Thomas buzz coming out of practice, Trell Harris appears to be practicing in full, Tank Carrington has a trait shared by Jayden Jackson, and OU adds Arkansas transfer Danny Saili to the defensive line room.

Later, the guys answer listener questions about Oklahoma’s offensive line, the run game, the running back room, how much better John Mateer really needs to be, what Ben Arbuckle must prove in year two, whether OU’s secondary can be considered the strength of the team, and which Sooners could get drafted after the 2026 season.

Chapters/Timecodes

00:00 — Opening Take – A good week ends with bad news 03:59 — Brandon Drumm reports Jake Maikkula was injured in Saturday’s scrimmage 09:03 — Noah Best hype and whether he could factor into the center battle 12:15 — Why losing Maikkula would be a significant downgrade 16:35 — Elijah Thomas suddenly becomes a major name to watch 22:18 — Trell Harris appears to be practicing in full and making plays 28:27 — James “Tank” Carrington hype keeps growing 30:27 — Comparing Carrington’s block recognition to Jayden Jackson as a freshman 35:19 — Oklahoma adds Arkansas transfer Danny Saili 38:40 — Todd Bates’ credibility and why the defensive staff gets benefit of the doubt 39:31 — Listener poll: if OU has the best defense, how good must the offense be? 41:08 — West of Everest YouTube subscriber update and community growth 41:57 — Why total offense can be misleading 42:23 — Does OU need a top-10 offense to win a national title? 45:28 — Listener Questions lead to O-line talk about Michael Fasusi and Heath Ozaeta 47:22 — Why the offensive line should improve, but may not be elite yet 50:50 — 12 personnel, offensive philosophy and how OU may build its offense 55:38 — Under-center run game discussion 59:18 — Hunter asks about run blocking and run game health 59:32 — Shane asks if any running back is emerging as the top guy 01:00:42 — Why Xavier Robinson’s quick return suggests the early injury may not be severe 01:01:48 — Grant’s concerns about Tory Blaylock as a top-two running back 01:04:33 — What offensive success against OU’s defense would mean in camp 01:06:00 — John Mateer listener question: how much better does he really need to be? 01:06:55 — Did upgraded personnel change the standard for Mateer? 01:07:50 — Why a small statistical improvement may not be enough 01:08:17 — Mateer’s injury prevented OU from learning how much he could improve last season 01:12:48 — What a realistic Mateer statistical improvement could look like 01:14:02 — Can Mateer improve pocket movement, reads and timing? 01:16:23 — Jeff asks what Ben Arbuckle must do to help the offense thrive 01:16:44 — Arbuckle has to be intentional with personnel and play-calling 01:18:29 — How the offense can thrive in the SEC 01:20:21 — James asks whether the secondary could be the strength of the defense 01:23:29 — Peyton Bowen, Reggie Powers, Omarion Robinson and safety depth 01:28:11 — Big defensive package possibilities 01:31:07 — Final listener question: how many Sooners get drafted? 01:34:42 — What double-digit draft picks would mean for Oklahoma’s season 01:36:09 — Looking ahead to season preview content and show close

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Ep. 430 - OU Makes Big Bet On Brent Venables Before Massive 2026 Season

OU and Brent Venables agreed to a new six-year contract that reportedly pays Venables an average of $10.5 million per year. Did OU have to make this move now?

The guys also discuss the latest on Jake Maikkula’s injury and the plan at center moving forward. The latest news out of fall camp includes Reggie Powers’ growth at cheetah, OU’s run-game talk, and more under-center work for John Mateer.

Later, Brady Trantham from Oklahoma Sooners on SI and Through the Keyhole joins the show to give his perspective from fall camp. Brady discusses the center situation, Xavier Robinson, Jonathan Hatton, OU’s wide receiver questions, the tight end room, Tank Carrington, the defensive line, and the bigger-picture debate over Venables’ contract extension and Oklahoma’s standard in the SEC.

Chapters/Timecodes

00:00 — Opening Take – Brent Venables gets a new contract 06:21 — Jake Maikkula injury clarity and the plan at center in the short term 17:27 — Reggie Powers buzz from fall camp 20:42 — Kip Lewis, Owen Heinecke and linebacker rotation questions 23:57 — Bigger bodies, tight ends and more command in the run game 24:19 — Tight ends as extra blockers in Oklahoma’s offense 27:06 — John Mateer talks under-center work and more 12 personnel discussion 34:16 — Brent Venables contract discussion begins 35:46 — Venables now reportedly among the top 10 highest-paid coaches 37:52 — Grant’s opening reaction: why do this right now? 40:39 — Lee: why not wait and see what happens in 2026? 46:01 — Oklahoma’s bet on front-office structure, Venables and development 49:41 — Listener question for Grant: did OU do enough to improve the offense? 50:57 — Grant’s answer: year five should mean national-level expectations 54:47 — Brady Trantham joins to talk fall camp 58:14 — Brady’s biggest fall camp takeaway outside Venables and Maikkula 01:02:19 — Brady on the Jake Maikkula injury and center options 01:06:00 — Is Ryan Fodje at center a real option or emergency planning? 01:12:10 — Tory Blaylock hamstring concern 01:12:48 — Xavier Robinson, Jonathan Hatton and Lloyd Avant as the healthy trio 01:14:05 — Jonathan Hatton’s physical tools and Adrian Peterson/Joe Mixon comparisons 01:19:00 — Elijah Thomas buzz and whether OU has a real playmaker emerging 01:24:00 — Tight end room talk: Hayden Hansen, Rocky Beers and Jack Van Dorselaer 01:26:00 — Can Jason Witten and Deland McCullough change OU’s offensive identity? 01:30:16 — Tank Carrington hype keeps growing 01:33:06 — Brady reacts to the Brent Venables contract extension 01:38:43 — Brady puts stock in the 2025 playoff season and the challenge of SEC play 01:41:01 — Grant’s concern: OU thought things were fine before 2024 too 01:43:25 — When should Oklahoma expect more than “good”? 01:44:11 — Should OU be a national title contender in year five? 01:45:44 — Comparing Venables’ path to Bob Stoops and the old Big 12/Big Eight reality 01:49:52 — How the SEC exposes your flaws 01:53:37 — The glass-half-full case for Oklahoma’s bet on Venables 01:58:37 — Whether the extension looks good depends on what you think 2026 will be 02:00:02 — What is the eject button for Venables? 02:10:46 — What if OU goes 9-3 but makes real offensive and defensive jumps? 02:14:59 — Georgia expectations and when OU should expect 11-1 or 12-0 again 02:16:34 — Where to find Brady Trantham’s work 02:17:32 — Closing: follow West of Everest

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Ep. 431 - The Big Season Preview Is Back!

Game week is finally here, and the Big Season Preview is back!

But first, Grant can’t believe a stat he just learned about a SEC team from the 70’s, the guys discuss the ongoing battle for the starting center spot, and acknowledge that OU recently announced its 2026 team captains.

Then, it’s time for the Big Season Preview as Lee and Grant go through five preseason prompts built around certainty, cautious optimism, skepticism, crazy-but-possible outcomes, and things they may not want to say too loudly. Topics include Oklahoma’s dominant run defense, whether OU will force more takeaways, whether the Sooners could have the best defense in college football, whether Deland McCullough fixes the running back room, whether John Mateer becomes OU’s most dynamic runner, whether the 12 personnel and under-center buzz is real, Elijah Thomas and Jonathan Hatton hype, PJ Adebawore’s NFL upside, the possibility of a 1,000-yard rusher, whether OU could produce two 800-yard receivers, and the uncomfortable possibility that Oklahoma could still finish 7-5 or worse.

The guys also include predictions from the West of Everest community, including thoughts on Mateer, Ben Arbuckle, the tight end room, Danny Okoye, OU’s turnover total, Brent Venables’ contract extension and the Sooners’ 2026 floor.

Finally, Lee and Grant revisit their past preseason predictions from 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024 before making their final 2026 record picks. The show closes with quick Week Zero thoughts on TCU, Memphis, Jackson Arnold, CJ Bailey, USC, Lincoln Riley, Gary Patterson and the arrival of real college football.

Chapters/Timecodes

00:00 — Opening Take - Oklahoma’s goal: three takeaways per game 04:20 — Grant reacts to the 1970 Tennessee takeaway record 08:43 — West of Everest moves to two episodes per week during the season 09:27 — Center position remains the biggest pre-UTEP storyline 10:08 — Ryan Fodje may be leading the center battle 16:48 — Oklahoma names nine captains 17:29 — Big season preview begins and the show is about to get better because the offseason content machine is almost over 22:02 — Prompt 1: “I am so certain of this that I haven’t even considered an alternative” 28:20 — Prompt 2: “I’m pretty sure this will happen, but I’m not ready to commit” 36:50 — Prompt 3: “I’m hearing the positive talk, but I still need to see it” 44:06 — Prompt 4: “That’s crazy, but it could happen” 59:28 — Grant’s boldest prediction 01:00:51 — Prompt 5: “I’m just going to keep my thoughts to myself” 01:02:29 — Predictions from the West of Everest community 01:11:03 — OU’s floor should be higher with a great defense and returning QB 01:12:46 — Looking back at West of Everest preseason predictions 01:13:19 — 2024 prediction review: Lee 9-3, Grant 8-4, OU finished 6-6 01:14:23 — 2023 prediction review: both picked 9-3, OU finished 10-2 01:16:47 — 2022 prediction review and maybe Grant’s worst take ever 01:20:55 — 2021 prediction review: Lee 11-1, Grant 12-0, OU finished 10-2 01:23:46 — Lee clarifies criticism of Venables is not an endorsement of Riley 01:24:44 — Final 2026 OU record picks 01:29:05 — Quick national college football thoughts from Week Zero 01:30:20 — TCU, Jaden Craig and Josh Hoover’s value 01:31:21 — Memphis, Jackson Arnold and pressure issues 01:32:33 — CJ Bailey, Virginia and the offseason quarterback hype machine 01:33:46 — USC, San Jose State and another Lincoln Riley-style game 01:35:39 — Looking ahead to UTEP

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Ep. 426 - OU Has 3 Future NFL Tight Ends?

SEC Media Days have come and gone, and one of the most interesting comments of the week came from Sooners general manager Jim Nagy. Does OU really have three tight ends on the roster who will be playing on Sundays?

Lee and Grant also react to Brent Venables’ correctly acknowledging OU’s flaws from 2025 and mentioning that nine offensive linemen can play winning football. The guys answer listener questions about the effectiveness of Tory Blaylock, and whether their opinions have changed on Brent Venables.

Later, Brady Trantham of Oklahoma Sooners on SI and Through the Keyhole joins the show to give his boots-on-the-ground perspective from SEC Media Days in Tampa. Brady discusses what actually mattered from Media Days, Brent Venables’ confidence in the tight end room, Oklahoma’s offensive questions, Trell Harris, the difficulty of adjusting to the SEC, Greg Sankey’s comments about the future of college football, the possibility of the SEC and Big Ten reshaping the sport, and more!

Chapters/Timecodes

00:00 — Opening Take – Jim Nagy’s Bold Claim at SEC Media Days 06:50 — Could OU really have three future NFL tight ends? 10:12 — Can better tight ends actually fix Oklahoma’s run game? 19:26 — Brent Venables correctly identifies OU’s biggest 2025 problems 21:41 — Receiver room changes and Trell Harris questions 25:14 — Venables says OU has nine offensive linemen who can play winning football 25:32 — Who are Oklahoma’s offensive line depth pieces? 28:36 — Listener question: Why does Grant not like Tory Blaylock? 35:33 — Listener question: Has your view of Brent Venables changed? 42:48 — Brady Trantham joins the show to talk SEC Media Days 48:49 — Brent Venables’ confidence in OU’s tight end room 01:03:36 — Greg Sankey, OU hate watching, and what a SEC breakaway looks like 01:06:33 — The case for a 35-to-45 team highest level of college football 01:13:03 — Bedlam, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech and the future “big boy table” 01:15:31 — Is college football trying to grow like the NFL or NBA? 01:17:48 — Why the Big 12 did not make Oklahoma better for the playoff 01:25:04 — Mid-majors, expensive football and who belongs in a playoff 01:28:55 — Could some programs eventually stop playing major football? 01:33:26 — OU’s Big 12 years, playoff failures and defensive depth issues 01:38:06 — Why beating bad Big 12 teams became an unhealthy fan experience 01:42:04 — Why a softer league can hide flaws 01:43:47 — SEC Preseason Poll and no defensive players on First Team All-SEC

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Ep. 425 - OU Football Breakouts, Red Flags, and SEC Predictions

Lee and Grant open with a look at OU’s second-year players heading into the 2026 season. Which young Sooners will contribute, and which players will disappoint?

Lee and Grant also discuss Oklahoma’s SEC Media Days representatives — John Mateer, Eddie Pierre-Louis and Taylor Wein — and whether there is any real meaning behind who Brent Venables chose to bring to Tampa.

Then the guys finish their SEC team-by-team predictions ahead of SEC Media Days. This episode covers Florida, Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Mississippi State, LSU and Texas.

The show closes with Lee and Grant unveiling their full predicted SEC order of finish, SEC Championship Game picks and SEC champion predictions.

Chapters/Timecodes

00:00 — Welcome. Lee’s sunburn advice 02:15 — Which second-year Sooners could contribute in 2026? 06:32 — Lee picks Darius Afalava as a possible offensive contributor 09:15 — Why Oklahoma’s offensive high school recruiting track record is concerning 12:24 — Omarion Robinson and Trent Wilson as obvious defensive breakout options 17:36 — Marcus James, high school recruiting and the modern transfer portal era 22:02 — Nigel Smith and whether 2026 is his make-or-break year 24:51 — Lee picks Elijah Thomas as a possible offensive non-factor 27:03 — Grant’s concerns about Emmett Jones and wide receiver development 30:45 — J.J. Hester’s strange Kentucky stat line 33:47 — John Mateer, Eddie Pierre-Louis and Taylor Wein heading to Tampa 41:54 — The Athletic’s All-SEC team and Kip Lewis being left off 43:17 — Lee’s Florida breakdown: John Sumrall, Buster Faulkner, Aaron Philo and Jadan Baugh 45:35 — Grant agrees on Florida going 7-5 47:18 — Florida’s skill talent and offensive line concerns 48:43 — Could Florida have the worst quarterback situation in the SEC? 51:25 — Grant predicts Alabama at 9-3 55:36 — Could Kalen DeBoer struggle with the Alabama culture fit? 56:32 — Ole Miss prediction. Crossfire here. 01:02:15 — Texas A&M prediction 01:02:54 — Grant’s hesitation with the Aggies and Marcel Reed 01:07:34 — Arkansas prediction 01:09:16 — Mississippi State prediction 01:11:40 — LSU prediction. Grant’s skeptical, but still high on LSU. 01:14:54 — Lee predicts LSU at 11-1 01:17:40 — Lee’s hopefully wrong Texas prediction 01:20:09 — Texas red flags: offensive line, Arch Manning and portal questions 01:22:47 — Full SEC predicted order of finish 01:23:34 — Grant’s Oklahoma prediction in the SEC standings 01:24:21 — Georgia as the default SEC champion pick, Lee’s surprise teams 01:26:39 — Most confident and least confident SEC predictions 01:27:54 — Grant’s Oklahoma uncertainty: SEC champion or 6-6? 01:28:50 — Bonus World Cup and soccer talk 01:31:59 — Why the U.S. still lags behind elite soccer countries 01:35:43 — Soccer popularity, money and American sports culture

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