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  • Episode 60 - The Radical Joy of Not Engaging

    Episode 60 - The Radical Joy of Not Engaging
    2026/04/26
    In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen clock in with a grounded, wide-ranging conversation about attention, identity, reinvention, internet absurdity, and the quiet power of choosing your peace. What begins as a casual, behind-the-scenes check-in evolves into a deeper reflection on what it means to exist in a season where clarity isn’t immediate, where everything feels a little unsettled, and where discernment becomes a daily practice.The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: catching up like public girlfriends before settling into the conversation. Nikki is navigating a full content rotation—from television to cultural moments—while Jayne arrives in what she calls “commentary mode,” observing more than reacting. That framing becomes the through-line for the episode: not everything requires a response, and not every moment deserves your energy.From there, the conversation moves through cultural recognition, entrepreneurial pivots, hair care experimentation, media consumption, digital chaos, and the ongoing work of protecting your attention in a world that constantly tries to claim it.I See You GirlJayne’s I See You Girl goes to Teyana Taylor for her Janet Jackson-inspired People Magazine shoot, a visual homage that was both intentional and meticulously executed. The moment was elevated even further when Janet herself responded publicly, acknowledging Teyana’s tribute and celebrating her directly. It becomes less about the photos and more about the exchange—a real-time recognition that closes the gap between inspiration and influence.Nikki’s I See You Girl goes to entrepreneur Danielle Leslie, who is currently navigating a very public transition out of the business model that made her successful. After building a multi-million dollar course brand, Danielle is now stepping back, questioning her identity, and sharing transparently about the financial and emotional realities behind the scenes. It’s not a clean or resolved story, but it’s an honest one—and that honesty is what makes it worth paying attention to.What We’re On Right NowJayne is currently on a hair journey that centers on rethinking everything she has been taught about maintenance, moisture, and growth. Through daily washing, finger detangling, and simplifying her approach, she is developing a more direct relationship with her hair—one rooted in observation rather than assumption. It’s less about quick results and more about learning in real time.Nikki is currently on Imperfect Women, a series that leans into complicated relationships, layered storytelling, and emotional tension. What initially feels like a familiar setup quickly reveals itself to be more nuanced, offering a reminder that not all narratives are meant to resolve neatly—and that sometimes the complexity is the point.Mindin’ My Black BusinessJayne’s Mindin’ My Black Business goes to Curly Proverbs, a brand built on years of natural hair research, Ayurvedic practices, and intentional experimentation. What began as shared knowledge has evolved into a line of products that reflect both discipline and lived experience, reinforcing the value of expertise that is cultivated over time.Nikki’s Mindin’ My Black Business spotlights HyaPak, a Kenya-based company transforming invasive water plants into biodegradable plastic alternatives. By repurposing what was once an environmental burden, the company has created a sustainable solution that supports both ecological restoration and economic opportunity, offering a powerful example of innovation grounded in necessity.Jesus Take the WheelThis week’s moment begins with a surprising realization: a widely recognized early-2000s song carries a meaning far heavier than many listeners initially understood. What once felt nostalgic shifts into something more sobering upon closer reflection, reframing the way the music is experienced.The conversation then takes an unexpected turn into the realities of the human body—specifically, aspects of female anatomy that were either misunderstood or never fully explained. The tone remains light, but the underlying sentiment is clear: there is a lot we are still learning, even about ourselves.Health & HealingThis week’s Health & Healing centers on attention—how it is given, how it is used, and what it costs.Using recent online discourse as a reference point, Nikki reflects on the intensity with which people engage in debates about individuals they do not know personally. The conversation highlights how easily identity becomes attached to opinion, and how quickly engagement escalates into emotional investment.Jayne expands on this by naming attention as a form of currency. Every reaction—whether supportive or critical—feeds the same system, raising the question of whether participation is always necessary.The takeaway is simple, but ...
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    58 分
  • Episode 59 - The Radical Joy of Under-Functioning

    Episode 59 - The Radical Joy of Under-Functioning
    2026/04/14
    In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen clock in with a rich, wide-ranging conversation about over-functioning, space exploration, cultural disappointment, Black excellence, hair journeys, and the healing power of choosing your own peace.The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: catching up like public girlfriends before finally turning on the microphones. Nikki is fully locked into the wonder of the Artemis II mission, celebrating the crew’s safe return from orbiting the moon and reflecting on what it means to see Earth from the outside. Jayne, meanwhile, arrives with a deeply relatable out-of-office reply: she is currently under-functioning because she got tired of over-functioning — a phrase that sets up one of the episode’s most resonant conversations.From there, the conversation moves through international dating, Black women in space, fasting and autophagy, Black-owned haircare, deepfake violations, burnout, boundaries, music, Mardi Gras Indian artistry, and the emotional labor of finally telling the truth to yourself.I See You GirlJayne’s I See You Girl goes to Nia Moore, the endlessly entertaining private flight attendant, foodie, and globe-trotting auntie who is documenting her international dating adventures with boldness, humor, and zero apology. From London to Barcelona to LA, Nehamore is trying different dating apps, inviting handsome men out on dates she plans herself, and showing what it looks like to create your own fun instead of waiting to be chosen. For Jayne, it’s both aspirational and refreshing — an example of a woman fully living.Nikki’s I See You Girl goes to Kiari Dools, the NASA exploration scientist and flight controller who became a Threads favorite during the Artemis II mission. As one of the Black women helping guide the mission from the ground, Kiari became a symbol of brilliance, representation, and modern-day hidden figures no more.What We’re On Right NowJayne is currently on autophagy — the body’s process of cellular cleanup and renewal — and specifically the role fasting can play in activating it. She shares her fascination with Fast Life Jay, who has been publicly documenting an extended fast and dramatic health transformation, and reflects on how that conversation intersects with her own wellness and body-composition journey.Nikki is currently on space exploration, and not casually. She is all the way in on Artemis II, from the astronauts’ reflections to the emotional symbolism of the mission to the generations of Black brilliance that made it possible. For Nikki, this mission was more than science — it was hope, perspective, humility, and a reminder that we are all riding this same fragile spaceship together.Mindin’ My Black BusinessJayne’s Mindin’ My Black Business goes to Camille Rose Naturals, the Black-founded natural haircare company still owned by its original founder, Janell Stephens. As Jayne continues her daily wash-and-go experiment and deepens her relationship with her hair, she spotlights the brand’s ingredient integrity, founder story, and commitment to natural formulations rooted in care.She also gives love to TGIN, another Black-founded haircare line with deep personal significance, as she reflects on the importance of supporting companies that remain rooted in their original mission and legacy.Nikki’s Mindin’ My Black Business spotlights the DualShot app, created by Derrick Downey Jr., which allows creators to record vertical and horizontal video at the same time. Born from Derrick’s own creative needs — and after many people first came to know him through his beloved squirrel content — the app is a smart, useful reminder that innovation often starts with solving your own problem first.Jesus Take the WheelNikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel comes out of Germany, where a television presenter and actress has alleged that for years, pornographic deepfakes, fake social profiles, and AI-generated voice impersonations of her were being spread online — and that the person behind it may have been her own husband. The story becomes a chilling meditation on digital abuse, humiliation as a fetishized form of control, and the terrifying reality that some of the chaos women experience may be coming from inside the house.The conversation then broadens into a larger reflection on insecurity, manipulation, and the unsettling emotional pattern of people harming the very person they are supposed to love.Health & HealingThis week’s Health & Healing centers on a powerful question:What happens when you stop over-functioning?Jayne opens up about realizing just how much of her life has been shaped by over-functioning — managing other people’s comfort, suppressing her own pain, dulling her honest reactions, and carrying emotional burdens that should never have been hers to hold. Triggered by a recent piece ...
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    54 分
  • Episode 58 - The Radical Joy of Realizing You Don't Have to Save Them Folks

    Episode 58 - The Radical Joy of Realizing You Don't Have to Save Them Folks
    2026/04/04
    In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen clock in with a conversation that moves from sports heartbreak to reality TV betrayal, Broadway wins, Black business brilliance, and the emotional labor of learning when to let people go.The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and catching up like the public girlfriends they are. Jayne is still in mourning over Duke’s devastating NCAA loss to UConn — a loss so painful it reopened a very specific 1999 college-era wound. Nikki, meanwhile, is fully tapped into the Bravo discourse and gives Jayne a live update on the latest Summer House chaos, friendship betrayal, and why the girls are currently riding at dawn for Sierra.From there, the conversation moves through Black excellence, Women’s History Month, the WNBA, music, natural hair, vacation dreams, AI theft, disappointing public figures, and the healing work of learning to protect your peace without explanation.I See You GirlJayne’s I See You Girl goes to Megan Thee Stallion, whose latest era continues to be one of expansion, reinvention, and undeniable elevation. This week, Jayne spotlights Megan’s historic Broadway run in Moulin Rouge, where she is playing the role of Zidler — a role traditionally played by a man — making her the first woman to take it on in the production. Even with a brief health scare caused by exhaustion, Meg remains a force, and Jayne gives her flowers for continuing to level up in public, in real time, and on her own terms.Nikki’s I See You Girl goes to Claudia Goldin, the Nobel Prize-winning economist whose volunteer work helped the WNBA Players Association secure one of the biggest labor wins in sports history. From salary increases to better benefits and long-overdue structural correction, Claudia’s work reminds us that math, rigor, and advocacy can absolutely change lives — especially for women whose labor has long been undervalued.What We’re On Right NowNikki is currently on music — specifically a run of artists who are making her life better in real time. She shouts out RAYE, whose new album has only deepened her admiration, and also puts listeners onto Naomi Scott’s album Fallen to Grace, a polished, soulful, pop-forward project with texture, restraint, and a boutique-coffeehouse kind of cool. For Nikki, this is music to drive to, live with, and return to.Jayne is currently on daily washing for natural hair — a full-on experiment inspired by the idea that Black textured hair may thrive with more moisture than many of us have been taught to give it. She talks about washing, finger-detangling, trying products, and building a new relationship with her hair in real time. It’s part beauty journey, part discipline, part curiosity, and fully a reminder that sometimes growth requires unlearning.Mindin’ My Black BusinessJayne spotlights Amina Jillil, the luxury shoe designer whose sculptural, hyper-feminine, instantly recognizable footwear has become a fashion force. From oversized bows to statement gems to thigh-high leather boots that may or may not become a post-Duke-loss consolation gift to herself, Jayne celebrates Amina’s rise from dancer to global designer and the vision it took to build a brand that feels both glamorous and unmistakable.Nikki highlights Finger Lakes Treehouse, founded by Daryl and Patrice Maxam, a Black-owned hospitality concept that grew from an Airbnb room rental into a full experience-driven getaway brand. With treehouses, cabins, Airstreams, nature, fire pits, and a whole different pace of living, the property becomes a symbol of what can happen when you start small, stay consistent, and build toward something bigger.Jesus Take the WheelNikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel goes to the bizarre and deeply troubling story of a white influencer who allegedly used AI to put her face onto the body of a Black woman in a tennis-stadium photo and then posted it as her own. The conversation becomes a larger meditation on theft, digital fraud, entitlement, and the exhausting familiarity of seeing Black creators and Black women treated as raw material for somebody else’s image.From there, the ladies also touch on the disappointment of public figures like Chilli and Nick Cannon, using those examples to ask a bigger question: what do you do when people you once rooted for reveal themselves to be out of alignment with your values?Jayne’s answer is simple: vote with your feet.Health & HealingThis week’s Health & Healing centers on disappointment fatigue, boundaries, and the emotional maturity of knowing when not to save people.Nikki reflects on the reality that some people do not want to be saved, corrected, or called in — and exhausting yourself trying to do so only drains your own peace. Jayne builds on that by naming something many Black women are actively unlearning: the idea that...
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    1 時間 7 分
  • Episode 57 - The Radical Joy of Receiving the Truth That Sets You Free

    Episode 57 - The Radical Joy of Receiving the Truth That Sets You Free
    2026/03/28
    In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen keep the conversation going in their first intentional audio-only episode — live from Nikki’s mother-in-law’s closet in Oregon and fully committed to staying out of office, even off-camera.The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and letting the conversation unfold from there. Nikki is busy watching QVC and reflecting on the unexpected entertainment value of daytime television, while Jayne shares a deeper lesson from her own QVC experience — that manifestation requires aiming beyond the moment you think you want, because getting exactly what you asked for is not always the same as arriving where you’re meant to be.From there, the conversation moves through beauty, Black history, fitness, haircare, loneliness, friendship, truth-telling, and the discipline of choosing yourself again and again.I See You GirlJayne’s I See You Girl goes to Chaka Khan, who at 73 is still glowing, radiant, and completely herself. After hearing Chaka casually reveal that her beauty “secret” is simply slathering her face with oil or heavy lotion before bed, Jayne takes the moment as both a practical skincare tip and a broader reminder that consistency, moisture, and keeping it simple may still be some of the best anti-aging wisdom there is.Nikki spotlights Biddy Mason, the formerly enslaved woman who became one of the wealthiest Black women in Los Angeles. From winning her freedom in court to building a real estate empire, founding institutions, and leaving behind a legacy of generosity and civic power, Biddy Mason becomes this week’s reminder that Black history is full of women who transformed survival into ownership, influence, and lasting community impact.What We’re On Right NowNikki is currently on Tae Bo with Billy Blanks, rediscovering the joy of old-school workouts that still get the job done. Between YouTube Tae Bo sessions and figure-eight resistance bands, she’s focused on toning, moving with intention, and reconnecting with a kind of fitness that feels fun, effective, and sustainable.Jayne is on Cécred, Beyoncé’s haircare line, and specifically has her eye on what appears to be a quietly excellent formulation strategy. After trying the Silk Protein Rinse and reviewing the ingredient deck through the lens of her own beauty industry background, she suspects the line may be doing much more than it initially lets on — and is preparing to test the styling products next, wash-and-go included.Mindin’ My Black BusinessJayne brings a twofer this week, highlighting both Cécred and Grow Good, Cardi B’s newly launched haircare line. With one brand positioned as luxurious and ingredient-forward and the other appearing more affordable and accessible, the ladies are interested in seeing how both lines perform — especially for women on real-life healthy hair journeys.Nikki spotlights Cedric Mitchell Design, the work of Black glassblower Cedric Mitchell, whose sculptural glassware blends art, function, nostalgia, and what he calls modern funk. His kinetic glasses feel equal parts conversation starter and design object, and the whole collection is a reminder that Black creativity continues to expand the definition of luxury, beauty, and everyday ritual.Jesus Take the WheelJayne’s Jesus Take the Wheel comes from a trend she finds both unsettling and deeply sad: people using AI for romance. What begins as a conversation about AI “boyfriends” and digital companionship becomes a broader reflection on loneliness, emotional avoidance, and the ways people are increasingly turning to simulation over actual intimacy. For Jayne, it’s a sharp reminder that AI may be a tool, but it cannot replace the humanity of being seen, challenged, and loved by another real person.Nikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel goes to the bizarre story involving Alan Ritchson, a bike ride, a neighbor dispute, and a body-cam reveal that changed the whole narrative. What initially looked like one story became another entirely once more footage surfaced, and Nikki is left asking the obvious question: why are people this committed to schemes, setups, and self-inflicted chaos in the ...
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    59 分
  • Episode 56 - The Radical Joy of Waking Up to Who You Really Are

    Episode 56 - The Radical Joy of Waking Up to Who You Really Are
    2026/03/21
    In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen clock in with a full, fiery, culture-forward conversation about storytelling, self-definition, personal power, and what it means to wake up to your own truth in a world determined to narrate you incorrectly.The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and setting the tone. Jayne is focused on growing her hair, regulating her sleep, and shortening her manifestation window, while Nikki declares herself busy creating propaganda—the kind rooted in equity, storytelling, and shaping narratives that actually serve people.From there, the conversation moves through Oscars discourse, Black excellence, mirror work, renesting, AI-fueled innovation, and the emotional labor of reclaiming joy without apologizing for it.I See You GirlJayne’s I See You King goes to Michael B. Jordan, whose Best Actor Oscar win becomes a larger meditation on talent, truth, and what it means to beat the machine. Rather than centering the usual industry narratives, Jayne breaks down how Sinners and its team stayed rooted in the truth of their work—despite the noise, despite the positioning, and despite the systems designed to uplift someone else.Nikki spotlights Quenlin Blackwell, the internet personality and host whose chaotic, compelling energy made her one of the breakout standouts of Oscars red carpet coverage. Funny, unfiltered, and impossible to ignore, Quenlin becomes a case study in what happens when personality, presence, and platform collide in real time.What We’re On Right NowJayne is currently on re-nesting—the act of intentionally simplifying your life, moving closer to yourself, and rejecting the external trappings of success in favor of healing, focus, and alignment. She reflects on what it means to leave behind peacocking and performance in order to build something quieter, truer, and more sustainable.Nikki is on mirror work, inspired by a wildly insightful nine-year-old who described the mirror as a gateway to infinite versions of yourself. By whispering affirmations and truths to her reflection, Nikki has found a playful but powerful way to shift her mood, check her energy, and reconnect to herself with intention.Mindin’ My Black BusinessJayne highlights The Best Man: Unfinished Business, Book One, inviting book clubs to slide into the DMs and invite her and Malcolm D. Lee into their discussions. The response has already been strong, and the authors are eager to join readers in unpacking the story together.Nikki spotlights The Meridian Club, founded by Nany, a private travel and spa club for women centered on rest, restoration, and low-demand luxury. Built around healing water traditions, pleasure-driven food, and soft community, it’s the kind of wellness concept that feels deeply aligned with the moment.Jesus Take the WheelJayne’s Jesus Take the Wheel comes from an unsettling documentary about men who spend thousands renting girlfriends—not for companionship, but for control, compliance, and the illusion of relational ease without another person’s actual humanity. The conversation becomes a sharp examination of entitlement, emotional underdevelopment, and the danger of wanting a relationship without the existence of another will.Nikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel goes to Tasha K, following the latest developments in her ongoing legal and financial fallout after losing a defamation case to Cardi B. From alleged asset shielding to a GoFundMe aimed at helping pay the judgment, the situation becomes a case study in consequences, ego, and what happens when sorry could have saved everybody time.Health & HealingJayne offers a powerful word this week: wake up.Not to fear—but to yourself. To your own truth. To your own story. Using Ryan Coogler and the Sinners campaign as the example, she reflects on what happens when you refuse to let the loudest lie become your reality. If you stay rooted in the truth of your work, your gifts, your effort, and your story, then even the machine eventually has to face what’s real.Nikki builds on that with a needed reminder: if someone else’s joy makes you uncomfortable, that discomfort is information. Using the reaction to Teyana Taylor’s visible joy as an example, she unpacks how deeply many of us have internalized the policing of Black joy—and how healing requires expanding ourselves, not shrinking other people.What’s GoodJayne shouts out the new WNBA collective bargaining agreement, which dramatically increases average salaries, minimum salaries, and revenue share for players. The numbers tell the story clearly: women’s professional basketball has long been undervalued, and this new agreement is a major step toward correcting that.Nikki highlights a wild but hopeful story out of Australia, where a man used AI and determination to help create a custom vaccine for his ...
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    1 時間 18 分
  • Episode 55 - The Radical Joy of Building a Life You Don't Have to Beg For

    Episode 55 - The Radical Joy of Building a Life You Don't Have to Beg For
    2026/03/14
    In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, your co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen return with a short but layered conversation about voice, visibility, culture, and what it means to build a life rooted in self-respect, alignment, and enoughness.The episode opens with the ladies doing what they do best: turning on their out-of-office replies and naming the energy. With the world worlding as usual, Jayne is busy reading up on the latest developments in community collective action, while Nikki enters her birthday month with one clear instruction: talk to her nice.From there, the conversation moves through brilliance in marketing, creativity, entrepreneurship, internet foolishness, and the quiet power of building a life that doesn’t require over-explaining, over-proving, or begging to be believed.I See You GirlNikki spotlights Dara Treseder, the powerhouse marketing executive currently serving as Chief Marketing Officer at Autodesk. From helping drive Peloton’s explosive growth to turning software into story-driven cultural messaging, Dara is a reminder that the best marketing doesn’t just sell products — it sells identity, possibility, and belonging.Jayne highlights Viola Davis, who now adds novelist to her already-iconic résumé with the release of Judge Stone, a courtroom thriller co-written with James Patterson. Viola also narrates the audiobook herself, because of course she does — and the hosts reflect on what it means to witness a woman continue to evolve at the highest level of her craft.What We’re On Right NowJayne is currently on facial massage — and not in a frivolous way. After noticing puffiness and fluid retention from travel, stress, and changing routines, she’s been deep in the world of lymphatic drainage and facial massage, discovering just how much a few intentional minutes can shift how you look and feel.Nikki, meanwhile, is deep in another internet rabbit hole — or rather, several. From “attic lady” and “birthday cake lady” to a wedding canceled under mysterious circumstances and a husband allegedly stranded overseas with his sneaky link, Threads continues to prove itself as one of the most chaotic storytelling platforms on the internet.The ladies also take a moment to praise Paradise, which Nikki says is doing the rare thing: delivering a season two that may actually be just as strong as the first.Mindin’ My Black BusinessJayne brings listeners a Black-owned coffee brand: Kahawa 1893, founded by Margaret Nyamumbo, a Kenyan-born entrepreneur who transformed her family’s coffee legacy into a growing business now generating millions in annual sales. Her discovery began with fear-mongering around mycotoxins in coffee and ended in a much more useful place: supporting a Black woman-owned company doing the work right.Nikki highlights Gracie’s Cakes, the stunning cake artistry business of Ronique Briggs, a Bahamian-born, Ontario-based hyper-realistic cake artist whose sculptural creations are almost too beautiful to cut. Between her Netflix appearance on Is It Cake? and her online courses, this is artistry, entrepreneurship, and sweetness all in one.Jesus Take the WheelJayne’s Jesus Take the Wheel goes to the rollout surrounding Reverend Jamal Bryant's announcement of the conclusion of the latest retail boycott. The hosts unpack whether collective action can simply be declared over, and how accountability, results, and respect are required for the community involved.Nikki’s Jesus Take the Wheel comes out of Bakersfield, California, where a college basketball coach is under investigation for allegedly trafficking women across multiple states while simultaneously serving as an assistant coach. Combined with a separate investigation involving another athletic program at the same school, the hosts raise the larger question: what is happening inside these institutions that are supposed to protect young people?Health & HealingThis week, Jayne is in a real-time healing space and gives herself permission not to force clarity before it’s ready. Sometimes healing takes longer than a week, and sometimes the healthiest thing to do is to pause, process, and return when there’s something real to say.Woven throughout the episode is a larger truth: the life you’re building should not require begging — not for respect, not for resources, not for clarity, and not for permission to trust what you already know.What’s GoodNikki shouts out Professor Jason Arday, the youngest Black professor in the history of the University of Cambridge — and a man who did not speak until age 11 and did not learn to read and write until age 18. His story is a stunning reminder that timelines are not destiny.Jayne recommends an episode of Shan Boodram’s Lovers podcast featuring Melissa Ford, centered around the question: What if you never meet the one? The conversation explores wholeness, happiness, decentering men, and ...
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    48 分
  • Episode 54 - The Radical Joy of Trusting the Process

    Episode 54 - The Radical Joy of Trusting the Process
    2026/03/06
    In this week’s episode of We Are Out of Office, co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen return from a brief hiatus — truly out of office — reflecting on travel, geography, healing, and the lessons that appear when you slow down long enough to see them.Jayne shares insights from a week spent between Los Angeles, Palo Alto, and Stanford, including a striking realization after meeting an Uber driver who moved to Silicon Valley through the green card lottery: sometimes success isn’t just about talent or effort — sometimes it’s geography. Being in the right environment, surrounded by people who believe in ideas, can change the trajectory of what’s possible.Meanwhile Nikki reflects on a packed week in Los Angeles celebrating Black excellence — from producing a Hollywood Confidential fireside chat with legendary actress Loretta Devine to attending celebrations surrounding the NAACP Image Awards, including honoring powerhouse creator Mara Brock Akil.From culture and creativity to healing and entrepreneurship, the conversation explores what it means to keep moving forward — even when you’re still figuring things out.I See You GirlJayne honors Susan L. Taylor, the legendary former Essence editor-in-chief whose “In the Spirit” column shaped generations of Black women. A recent interview reminded Jayne of Taylor’s powerful message: you already have everything you need for this journey — even the moments when you lose your way.Nikki spotlights Wilglory Tanjong, founder of luxury handbag brand Anima Iris, who has launched a bold social campaign asking billionaire philanthropist MacKenzie Scott to invest $1 billion into 1,000 Black women founders. The numbers behind Black women entrepreneurship are undeniable — yet the venture capital funding gap remains staggering.What We’re On Right NowNikki shares how somatic exercises have become part of her healing routine while navigating grief. These small, intentional movements help regulate the nervous system and release stress stored in the body.Jayne breaks down the surprisingly simple routine behind her ongoing body recomposition journey, including daily eggs for complete protein, intermittent fasting, and consistent movement. Her takeaway: sometimes transformation isn’t about extreme measures — it’s about trusting the process and staying consistent.Mindin’ My Black BusinessJayne highlights Genesis House in Sedona, a beautiful Black woman–owned wellness estate created by Genesis Lafourcade. The retreat blends sound healing, yoga, restorative practices, and intentional design into a luxury healing experience.Nikki sends New York listeners on assignment: visit Marquette Restaurant in Chelsea, a Caribbean fine-dining concept by Michelin-starred chef India Doris that deserves far more attention from food lovers and creators alike.Jesus Take the WheelNikki introduces the internet’s newest relationship horror story: “Alpine Divorce.”The viral term describes people who take their partner on a hike or into nature… and abandon them there instead of simply communicating that the relationship is over.The hosts have questions. Many questions.Health & HealingNikki reflects on learning to live in what she calls the liminal space — the hallway between the life you’ve left behind and the life you’re building next. It’s uncomfortable, uncertain, and often where the most important growth happens.Jayne shares a powerful memory of hearing Iyanla Vanzant speak at Agape during a difficult transition in her own life — and the message that stayed with her: sometimes the darkness of the well is preparation for what comes next.Both hosts reflect on the challenge — and the radical joy — of trusting the process even when the outcome isn’t visible yet.What’s GoodJayne introduces listeners to rising neo-soul artist Johnny Burgos, whose smooth sound blends 90s soul with modern R&B.Nikki celebrates Michael B. Jordan and the cast of Sinners winning at the SAG Awards, adding momentum to the film’s powerful awards-season run.Final WordJayne’s closing reminder: Show love anyway.Nikki’s reflection: Sometimes the universe asks you to find peace where you are before it moves you forward.📩 Questions or comments? Email us: weareoutofofficepod@gmail.comFollow us: YouTube, Instagram & TikTok: @weareoutofofficepod🎧 If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe and share it with someone who might need a reminder that sometimes the biggest breakthroughs begin in the in-between — when you learn to trust the process.Show Links: Wilglory Tanjong x MacKenzie Scott!Susan L. Taylor Has Always Been That "IT" WomanSomatic Exercises w. The Workout WitchMarkette Restaurant ReviewThe Jenesis House in Sedona, ArizonaAlpine Divorce?!? Brooklyn's Daniel Burgos Gives us NeoSoul Jamiroquai Meets Justin Timberlake
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    1 時間 15 分
  • Episode 53 - The Radical Joy of Taking Accountability

    Episode 53 - The Radical Joy of Taking Accountability
    2026/02/21

    In this week’s Episode 53 of We Are Out of Office, co-hosts Veteran Television Executive Producer Nikki T and Bestselling Author Jayne Allen clock in with a joy-fueled, culture-first episode that moves from unhinged internet hilarity to a real conversation about accountability, healing, and the cost of “just going along to get along.”

    The ladies kick things off celebrating the chaotic brilliance of Threads (because Black History Month online is truly a different universe), then shout out their recent first-ever interview episode with Candice Marie—the woman behind the viral vertical series “Your Type Might Be the Korean Barista Who Don’t Speak English.” If you haven’t watched Episode 52 yet, they make the case: it’s a must.

    From there, it’s I See You, Girl time: Jayne spotlights Alexis Barber and her real-world “alignment edit” experience blending ambition, community, and goals—while Nikki celebrates Charm La’Donna, the powerhouse choreographer/creative director behind major halftime show moments (The Weeknd, Kendrick, Beyoncé Bowl, and Bad Bunny).

    Then the episode turns—Jesus Take the Wheel is supersized this week. Nikki breaks down why the America’s Next Top Model Netflix documentary stirred up real anger: the show shaped a generation, but the harm was real—and she’s calling out the difference between “it was a different time” and true ownership. Jayne adds her own lens, unpacking a viral roundtable clash as a case study in generational trauma, emotional triggering, and what happens when accountability shows up without safety or context.

    In Health & Healing, both hosts get personal: Nikki reflects on moments she stayed silent in non-melanated spaces to feel “chosen,” and Jayne speaks on growth, past relationship patterns, and the journey of reclaiming full humanity beyond checklists. The through-line is clear: healing requires truth—but truth also needs space.

    They wrap with what’s good (including an athlete shutting down a ridiculous interview question) and Jayne’s joyful Detroit love letter: the Wright Museum social content is giving mockumentary brilliance and Black culture excellence.

    Final Word: “Own it.”

    Questions? Comments? Email us at: weareoutofofficepod@gmail.com or Follow us on TikTok and Instagram at: @weareoutofofficepod

    Show Links:

    Charm La’Donna Interview w. The Grio

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