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In this episode of WTF is Business Casual?!, Jenny and Sarah dive into the viral debate that took over every HR person's Instagram feed. Is it okay to bring an iced coffee to a job interview? The original TikTok said absolutely not. The internet had other ideas. And Jenny and Sarah? They went through every possible emotion before landing somewhere surprisingly nuanced.

Whether you're a first-time job seeker, a hiring manager, or just someone who's been judged for their Starbucks order, this one's for you.

Honestly it's not about the coffee. It's about whether you give a damn.

Highlights:
[00:00] Cold open: the iced coffee interview debate
[01:49] How the viral TikTok took over HR feeds everywhere
[03:43] Jenny's hot take: depends on the interview, depends on the drink
[05:07] Water bottle vs. frappuccino, and where Sarah draws the line
[09:41] The best take of all: using the coffee as an interview tool
[13:49] The feet-on-the-desk interview that ended itself
[17:21] Show up to the office, especially in your first five years
[21:49] The sister-in-law who gives a shit, and her manager who might be a robot
[25:35] Chelsea's flat tire and the guy who actually stopped
[33:02] The legal side: why you can't just ask everyone different questions
[36:17] The front desk lady who was rating candidates the whole time

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In this episode of WTF is Business Casual?!, Jenny and Sarah are back on one of their favorite topics — Gen Z in the workplace — and they've got new material. From a Michigan university scrapping letter grades for first-semester freshmen to Oprah's jaw literally hitting the floor when a 23-year-old talks about work-life balance, this one covers a lot of ground.

They dig into why the gap between Gen Z and the workplace feels bigger than ever, who's actually responsible for it, and what leaders and parents can do right now before things get worse. Plus: the Facebook group where college parents are asking other parents to check on their kids.

Whether you're a parent, a people manager, or a Gen Z employee — this one's for you.

You'll leave with:

[00:00] Cold open: the Gen Z gap and why it feels bigger this time
[02:47] Is the gap actually bigger — or just louder?
[09:48] Michigan University ditches letter grades for freshmen
[13:41] Are we kicking the can down the road?
[19:21] Chelsea's late assignment email (Jenny stays quiet — barely)
[23:13] The overly involved college parent Facebook group
[32:07] Oprah vs. the Gen Z work-life balance girl
[40:32] Tactical advice for Gen Z employees
[42:00] What leaders need to stop assuming and start saying

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In this episode of WTF is Business Casual?!, Jenny and Sarah are back for part two of their workplace advice reaction series. They're reviewing trending career takes and giving their real perspectives as corporate insiders.

From a woman who says everything in corporate is made up (she's not wrong) to Dan Martell's fire-or-hire takes that had them equal parts nodding and horrified, there's a lot to unpack.

They get into why feelings are not facts and leaders already know what to do — they just want a different answer. Plus, the PTO clawback situation that has Jenny ready to fight, the great resume debate around job hoppers vs. lifers, and whether quiet people in meetings should be fired. Spoiler: Dan Martell thinks so. Jenny and Sarah do not.

Whether you're a job seeker, a people manager, or just someone who's been denied PTO that was already approved, this one's got something to make everybody feel something.

There's some good stuff out there on the internet. And then there's the rest of it.

Highlights:

[00:00] Cold open: not all workplace advice is good advice

[05:33] Reaction #1: everything in corporate is made up

[12:21] Reaction #2: if you don't say it, you lose the right to be frustrated

[14:13] Reaction #3: therapy truths that belong in every workplace

[19:21] Reaction #4: the three-year employee sweet spot — do we buy it?

[40:14] Reaction #5: the PTO clawback situation from hell

[45:48] Reaction #6: Dan Martell's fire or hire

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