Pope Leo just made an announcement against the Death Penalty, and Trevor Tomesh and Kai Schwemmer were on board! Here's the conversation and THIS is how they almost changed my mind.

Pope Leo just called the death penalty an attack on the dignity of the human person.Catholics are already fighting. Trads say Chicago went woke. Others say finally.Trevor Tomesh @realdrtt (Catholic, former atheist) and Kai Schwemmer @kaischwem walk into the wigwam with Cardon.- Not new. Catechism changed in 2018 under Francis. The word is **inadmissible**.- Respect Life Month: conception to natural death. Euthanasia, MAiD, then this.- Cardon’s radio-show argument: the death penalty as a path to repentance. The pastor said he’d think about it for days.- Millstone for child offenders. Woman caught in adultery. Both in the same book.- Augustine, Aquinas, Trent, the Papal States. Then John Paul II. Then Francis. Then Leo.- Green Mile: “Don’t mess with him. He has paid his price to society.”- The one case: premeditated murder, then he wants to atone. Have we closed the door?- Two deaths don’t balance the scales. Corrections officers pay too.- Cost, martyrs, and the guy who would rather die than sit in the trial.- Steel-man the other side: deterrence, Deuteronomy, slippery slope.- Then Nephi and Laban. And Ezekiel 33:11.Cardon starts at 99%. They almost get the last percent.#PopeLeo #DeathPenalty #WardRadio #TrevorTomesh### Chapter Markers0:00 – Pope Leo says no death penalty 2:50 – “Inadmissible” is not “morally wrong” 4:55 – The repentance argument that stopped a pastor 5:50 – Authority of the pontiff. Obey or what’s the point? 7:40 – Millstone and the woman in adultery 11:30 – Augustine to Francis in two minutes 15:00 – Kai shows up late 17:00 – Green Mile. He paid his price. 19:00 – The one man who wants to repay the debt 21:10 – Two deaths don’t balance anything 28:45 – Corrections officers and the Jesuit debate 33:45 – Martyrs cost more than supermax 37:25 – Steelman the other side 41:30 – Nephi killed Laban. Deuteronomy is a problem. 45:00 – Pedophiles, wood chippers, and the dark part 47:00 – Almost convinced. Not live.Become a member of this channel to get early access to videos and members only content:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmsAFGrFuGe0obW6tkEY6w/joinSupport the channel by purchasing equipment to help make content through our Amazon Wish List (please write a limerick in the "gist notes" and we will read it on the show!): https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1AQLMTSMBM4DC?ref_=wl_shareTo order Ward Radio Branded "merch", please visit: https://www.wardradio.com/category/all-products For this and more, please visit: WardRadio.comNow go do your ministering! (Home Teaching)⚡For more information on Go And Do Travel, please visit https://www.goanddotravel.com/1126wavemakersWe would also like to thank the following generous sponsors:⚡For more information on scripture notes please visit: https://scripturenotes.com/?via=wardradio⚡For more information on the Angel Studios Guild , please visit Angel.comFollow us at:Instagram:@WardRadioWorldwideFacebook: @WardRadioWorldwideTwitter: WardRadioShowTikTok: WardRadioWorldwideTo subscribe to "The Women of Ward Radio" Youtube Channel, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbu-wpRztV-8TYXClhUZhhwTo Subscribe to Cardon Ellis' Adventure Channel, please visit: http://www.youtube.com/@CardonEllisAdventures

Jackson Washburn — ASU, Harvard Divinity, UCLA PhD, Armenia mission — called into James White’s show and asked one question.Name a single work in Mormon studies you actually keep up on.White’s answer: a guy he knew who left, Blake Ostler from the late 90s, and “a lot of Dan McClellanism.”That’s the episode.- 2017 outside the Mesa Temple. Apologia cut the part where the 18-year-old kept up.- Calvinist tells him to repent and believe. Calvinist theology says he can’t.- Jeff Durbin called an Armenia mission “a ministry of death.”- White’s doctorate is from a unaccredited school. Washburn’s PhD is not.- Oxford Annotated Book of Mormon. Grant Hardy. Royal Skousen. BYU Studies. All public.- “New Mormonism” is just members saying the 1960s tracts are recycled 1870s affidavits.- Kingdom of the Cults still says “temple Mormons” and “caffeinated bedrooms.”- David Whitmer and priesthood. 30-second Google. Peer-reviewed article. White said it doesn’t exist.- Then he said 80-year-olds can’t lead. D. Todd Christofferson is 81 and just killed sports betting.- Open invitation: steak dinner, come on the show.Anti-Mormon rule #7: they tell you you’re stupid if you believe, then can’t name a book.#JamesWhite #JacksonWashburn #WardRadio #ApologiaChapter Markers0:00 – He called James White and asked for one book 2:55 – 2017 Mesa Temple. The cut conversation. 6:00 – “Repent and believe” — according to your own theology I can’t 9:25 – Armenia. First Christian nation. 10:30 – Accredited PhD vs. the unaccredited doctorate 13:00 – Name a Mormon studies book. Go. 15:15 – “Dan McClellanism” and a 90s Ostler volume 17:55 – They’re calling it “new Mormonism” now 24:00 – Oxford Annotated Book of Mormon. Grant Hardy. 55:00 – Kingdom of the Cults. Caffeinated bedrooms. 1:00:45 – David Whitmer. 30-second Google. 1:06:00 – Nicaea has nothing to do with Mormons. Sure. 1:08:35 – 80-year-olds can’t lead. Christofferson is 81. 1:12:10 – Why he actually called inBecome a member of this channel to get early access to videos and members only content:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnmsAFGrFuGe0obW6tkEY6w/joinSupport the channel by purchasing equipment to help make content through our Amazon Wish List (please write a limerick in the "gist notes" and we will read it on the show!): https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1AQLMTSMBM4DC?ref_=wl_shareTo order Ward Radio Branded "merch", please visit: https://www.wardradio.com/category/all-products For this and more, please visit: WardRadio.comNow go do your ministering! (Home Teaching)⚡For more information on Go And Do Travel, please visit https://www.goanddotravel.com/1126wavemakersWe would also like to thank the following generous sponsors:⚡For more information on scripture notes please visit: https://scripturenotes.com/?via=wardradio⚡For more information on the Angel Studios Guild , please visit Angel.comFollow us at:Instagram:@WardRadioWorldwideFacebook: @WardRadioWorldwideTwitter: WardRadioShowTikTok: WardRadioWorldwideTo subscribe to "The Women of Ward Radio" Youtube Channel, please visit: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbu-wpRztV-8TYXClhUZhhwTo Subscribe to Cardon Ellis' Adventure Channel, please visit: http://www.youtube.com/@CardonEllisAdventures