Users Are Not the Enemy: Dr. Angela Sasse on Human-Centered Security
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For years, cybersecurity has called users the weakest link. What if we have been asking the wrong question?\n\nIn this episode of Phishing for Answers, Joshua Crumbaugh sits down with Dr. Angela Sasse, one of the pioneers of human-centered security and the researcher behind the influential idea that users are not the enemy.\n\nThey discuss why organizations continue to struggle with security behavior, what most security awareness programs get wrong, how friction and poor interfaces shape risky behavior, the role of cognitive biases in social engineering, and how organizations can respond to the rapid adoption of AI tools.\n\nThis is a conversation about designing security people can actually use.Joshua Crumbaugh is a world-renowned ethical hacker and a subject matter expert in social engineering and behavioral science. As the CEO and Founder of PhishFirewall, he brings a unique perspective on cybersecurity, leveraging his deep expertise to help organizations understand and combat human-centered vulnerabilities in their security posture. His work focuses on redefining security awareness through cutting-edge AI, behavioral insights, and innovative phishing simulations.
PhishFirewall uses AI-driven micro-training and continuous, TikTok-style video content to eliminate 99% of risky clicks—zero admin effort required. Ready to see how we can fortify your team against phishing threats? Schedule a quick demo today!
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