Happy Columbus Day to all who celebrate? Oh wait, that’s only MAGA because Columbus was a ACTUALLY colonizer who raped and pillaged indigenous communities in Bahama? Yeah, he’s not our best American ancestor. And Trump’s obsessed with him, having now installed two statues of the pirate explorer in D.C., including on the White House lawn.

So, on this Indigenous Peoples' Day, Liz and Jeremy discuss Columbus’s place in the current American administration with Fr. Joash Thomas, the Canadian anticolonial missiologist, priest, and author of The Justice of Jesus.

Then we giggle and groan about how some evangelicals cannot understand the concept of “fictional,” re: the recent kerfuffle about Greta Gerwig’s Aslan being voiced by (gasp!) Meryl Streep rather than a deep-throated male. Turns out, that’s heresy.

The two articles we discussed:

“A familiar figure, a new voice: Meryl Streep’s Aslan stirs gender debate over Gerwig’s ‘Narnia’” by Peter Smith at AP News

“Fenced on the Eisenhower Lawn and Flowing Again at Union Station, Columbus Became the White House Prop for a 250th Anniversary” by Kyle James Lee at Aegis Alliance (Independent activist news site)

Support the hosts and guest:

Joash Thomas’s book, The Justice of Jesus, and substack, Masala Chai Theology

Jeremy Alder’s instagram and upcoming shows

Liz Charlotte Grant’s instagram and book, Knock at the Sky

Additional Credits:

Thanks to Steve Slagg for composing our theme music and Jeremy Grant Design for our branding and cover art.

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