At a time of political fragmentation and rising populism, Mathias Döpfner meets Kemi Badenoch, leader of the British Conservative Party and one of the most prominent voices of a new conservatism. They discuss the future of the centre-right, the failures of the past, and the battle over identity, migration, and economic growth.

Badenoch argues that conservatism must return to its core principles - personal responsibility, free markets, and strong national identity - while adapting to the challenges of the 21st century. She calls for an “economic revolution” to restore growth, stricter migration policies, and a clear break with what she sees as a culture of victimhood and “woke” ideology shaping Western societies.

She addresses tough questions: Why did traditional conservatives lose ground to populists? Has the West become complacent? Can meritocracy be restored - and welfare reformed? And how can open societies defend themselves against internal division and external threats?

A conversation about power, values, and the future of conservatism in a changing world.

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