This week on Typology I had the joy of sitting down with author Hanna Howard, an Enneagram Four with a Five wing. Hanna’s not only the author of the young adult fantasy novel Our Divine Mischief, but also a great example of how our Enneagram type shapes the stories we tell — on paper and in life.

We talk about what sets a 4w5 apart — that mix of emotional depth and intellectual curiosity. While a 4w3 may lean toward image and achievement, Hanna shares how her Five wing draws her inward, toward reflection, research, and a rich world of ideas.

Hanna opens up about her lifelong search for authenticity — that familiar Four longing to feel significant — and shares a moment from her college years when a single line from Twelfth Night put words to that ache for belonging.

Of course, we talk about Our Divine Mischief — Hannah’s alternate-history fantasy set in a magical version of Scotland. At its core, it’s a story about belonging, something every Four knows well, complete with a wish-granting dog (yes, really).

It’s a rich conversation about creativity, personality, and the longing we all carry to belong. I hope you enjoy it. And if you’re looking for a beautiful read, check out Our Divine Mischief.

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In this episode of the Typology Podcast, we dive deep into the art of conflict resolution with our special guest, James Ginn, author of the new book How to Get Along with Anyone: The Playbook for Predicting and Preventing Conflict at Work and at Home.

Join us as we explore the five distinct conflict styles: Avoiders, Competitors, Collaborators, Accommodators, and Analyzers. James shares insights on how these typologies influence our reactions during conflicts and how understanding them can lead to better relationships both at work and at home.

We discuss:

• The three types of conflict: task, process, and relational.

• How to identify your own conflict style and triggers.

• Practical strategies for navigating conflicts with different personality types.

• The importance of emotional intelligence in resolving disputes.

Whether you're a conflict resolution specialist or someone who simply wants to improve your interpersonal relationships, this episode is packed with valuable insights and actionable advice.

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:10 - Meet James Ginn
00:53 - Understanding the Enneagram and conflict styles
02:08 - Identifying your conflict style
02:35 - The three types of conflict
04:20 - Communication preferences in conflict
05:42 - How to approach conflict resolution
10:01 - The role of emotional triggers
11:50 - Tone of communication in conflict
20:22- The importance of assessing conflict situations
30:58 - Final thoughts on conflict resolution and Enneagram types

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In this heartfelt episode of Typology, Anthony and I sit down with Elizabeth Husserl—an Enneagram One with a Two wing and the author of the beautiful new book The Power of Enough: Finding Joy in Your Relationship with Money.

Elizabeth's story begins over two decades ago when she first encountered the Enneagram. What followed was nothing short of transformational. Her work with the Enneagram didn’t just shape her inner life—it helped heal her marriage and completely reframed her understanding of wealth. In our conversation, she invites us to imagine a richer, more expansive definition of money—one rooted in connection, belonging, and wholeness rather than scarcity and striving.

Together, we explore:

• How the Enneagram can deepen personal growth and strengthen relationships

• Elizabeth’s evolving relationship with money and what it’s taught her

• The role of financial “DNA” and how we can begin to rewrite our inherited money stories

• Grounded practices for living with “enoughness” in every area of life

If you're curious about how the Enneagram intersects with your financial story—or simply hungry for a more soulful approach to money—this episode is full of wisdom, vulnerability, and grace.

You can learn more about Elizabeth’s work at ElizabethHusserl.com, and follow her on Instagram @ElizabethHusserl for more insights.