Do you ever wonder if Jesus really claimed to be God? Maybe you've heard people say, "Jesus never said he was God," or you've been asked, "Why believe Jesus is divine if he never claimed it?" These questions don't just come from skeptics outside the church—they show up in church, too. Even if you're not coming from a place of doubt, you might still wonder how well what we're taught about Jesus matches up with what he actually said. So, did the historical Jesus really claim to be divine? That's what today's discussion is all about.

Today we're honored to have on Dr. Mikel Del Rosario. Mikel is a professor of Bible and theology at Moody Bible Institute in Chicago. He has coauthored 31 journal articles on apologetics and cultural engagement in Bibliotheca Sacra alongside his mentor, Darrell L. Bock. A member of the Evangelical Theological Society, Del Rosario hosts The Apologetics Guy Show, a podcast on YouTube and the Christianity Today Network, and previously hosted Dallas Theological Seminary's cultural engagement podcast, The Table. He lives in Chicago with his wife, where he enjoys teaching, writing, and engaging with culture.

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What if the people we overlook in church are the ones God calls indispensable? What if disability isn't a barrier to ministry, but a doorway to rediscovering the heart of Christ? Inclusion isn't just about access—it's about transformation. In a world shaped by ability and performance, the church has a chance to lead differently. This episode explores how embracing those with disabilities can reshape our communities, renew our mission, and reveal the true nature of the gospel.

Our guest today is Russ Ewell. Russ is an author, minister, and social entrepreneur, as well as the lead pastor of Bay Area Christian Church. As a father to sons with Autism and Down Syndrome, he has found purpose in overcoming human limits through family, faith, and technology. As CEO of Digital Scribbler and founder of Hope Technology Group, E-Sports, and Deep Spirituality, he has created tools and communities that empower the silenced and marginalized. His work in AAC tech, inclusive sports, and spiritual leadership has earned a Jefferson Award and Congressional Citation. He inspires transformative thinking, leadership, and a personal, powerful relationship with God.

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Do you ever feel overwhelmed by the responsibility of helping your kids see the world the way God does? Or maybe parenting leaves you feeling a little disoriented—like you're spinning upside-down? You're not alone. We all love our kids and want them to have a flourishing faith and embrace God's upside-down Kingdom.

Today, we're honored to have Matt Jones and Janel Greig on the show. They are co-hosts of Summit's newest podcast: Upside-Down Parenting! In the podcast, they offer practical insights, biblical wisdom, and encouragement to help you navigate the tough times and everyday challenges of parenting. If parenting sometimes feels upside-down, that's okay. Following God's design often is upside-down compared to the world around us—and that's exactly what makes it so powerful.

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