In this episode of Trust & Turbulence, Joshua Brickman sits down with two of the most influential voices in cybersecurity leadership: Mary Ann Davidson, former Chief Security Officer of Oracle, and Edna Conway, former Chief Security & Risk Officer at Cisco and Microsoft.

Drawing on decades of experience in product security, risk management, supply chain assurance, and cybersecurity policy, they discuss how organizations can build trust and resilience in an increasingly complex digital world.

Topics include:

• The origins of supply chain security
• Lessons from the SolarWinds attack
• CISO accountability and cyber resilience
• The EU Cyber Resilience Act and global regulation
• Software Bills of Materials (SBOMs)
• AI and product security
• Building a culture of trust and security

Rather than focusing on headlines, this conversation examines the deeper challenges facing technology providers, governments, and security leaders as they navigate an evolving threat landscape.

Guests:
Mary Ann Davidson – Former Chief Security Officer, Oracle

Edna Conway – Former Chief Security & Risk Officer, Cisco and Microsoft

Hosted by Joshua Brickman

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

03:26 Supply Chain Security Origins

18:33 Lessons from SolarWinds

35:47 How the EU Is Reshaping Cybersecurity

45:20 Can AI Make Software More Secure?