What does it really mean to live in the “easy yoke” of Jesus?

In this conversation with our friends Bill and Kristi Gaultiere, we explore how empathy, grace, and slow faithfulness transform our everyday walk with God. Together, we unpack their decades of counseling, ministry, and personal growth—learning what it looks like to move through walls in our faith, practice self-empathy, and reflect God’s love in our relationships. From the practical “four A’s of empathy” to the hope of God meeting us right where we are, this episode invites us to discover how deeply loved we truly are.

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What if the most important leadership lessons aren’t learned on a stage, but in the wilderness, through pruning, weakness, and limitation? In this conversation with Lindy Black, we explore how God shapes leaders from the inside out. With decades of experience in the Navigators and Trueface, Lindy shares her own journey of discovering her gifting, receiving healing, and learning to lead with honesty, courage, and a God-focused life. Together, we reflect on the unseen formation that prepares us to serve others well, and how vulnerability and humility unlock true influence.

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What if the life Jesus invites us into is less about what we do for Him and more about simply being with Him? In this episode, we sit down with our new friend Nathan LaGrange, Executive Director of Oasis Rest International, to explore how leaders—and all of us—can move from exhaustion and performance into rhythms of rest, renewal, and presence with God.

Nathan shares his raw story of transformation–from his unlikely introduction to Jesus, to decades of ministry, and now creating safe spaces for leaders to be refreshed. Together, we wrestle with questions of identity, productivity, and what it really means to walk with God instead of merely working for Him.

If you’ve ever longed for more than busyness, if you’ve felt the pull of accomplishment over intimacy, this conversation will help you pause, breathe, and rediscover the joy of being fully alive in Christ.

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