• Shervin Koushan (AnyTracker): $800 MRR from 10K Freemium Users – Time to Experiment With Pricing?
    2025/07/11

    In this episode of the Trial to Paid podcast, Shervin Koushan discusses the development and success of his versatile app, AnyTracker, which allows users to track various metrics from any website. Shervin outlines his guiding principles for creating successful apps and shares how his personal coding journey from high school to studying robotics at university influenced his work. He highlights the app's broad appeal, user growth, and revenue model, while also touching on business challenges and future aspirations. Shervin emphasises the importance of continuous improvement, user feedback, and the potential to tap into new markets. The episode provides valuable insights for aspiring app developers and entrepreneurs.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Welcome
    00:16 Guiding Principles for Building Products
    01:10 Shervin's Coding Journey
    02:52 The Creation of AnyTracker
    06:38 How AnyTracker Works
    10:49 Market and User Insights
    17:59 Business Model and Pricing
    18:53 Revenue Insights and Pricing Strategies
    19:43 Freemium Model and User Base
    21:20 Marketing Efforts and User Acquisition
    24:34 Lessons Learned and Future Plans
    28:11 Scaling and Monetization Goals
    30:31 Partnerships and Team Dynamics
    32:03 Balancing Day Job and Side Projects
    32:57 Final Thoughts and Advice for Founders

    Shervin's Links

    AnyTracker: https://anytracker.app
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/shervin-koushan-907917192/
    X: https://x.com/koushanshervin
    Instagram: https://instagram.com/_shervinkoushan_

    Rob's Links

    Trial to Paid: https://trialtopaid.io
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/rbdmorgan
    X: https://x.com/rbdmorgan


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  • Martin Rue (LangSesh): From Engineering Manager to Purpose-Driven SaaS Nomad
    2025/07/02

    In this episode of the Trial to Paid podcast, Rob Morgan welcomes Martin Rue, the founder of LangSesh, to discuss his journey from a lifelong passion for languages and software engineering to creating an innovative language learning tool. Martin shares his guiding principles for building products, the importance of honesty and doing meaningful work, and his unique path as a digital nomad in Southeast Asia. The conversation delves into LangSesh's development, including challenges, technological choices, and the essential feedback loop with users. Martin also emphasises the significance of aligning personal interests with entrepreneurial projects, fostering a fulfilling and sustainable work-life balance. This episode is packed with insights on innovation, user-centered design, and maintaining motivation in the startup world.

    Chapters

    00:00 Welcome and Introduction
    00:17 Guiding Principles in Product Design
    01:06 The Importance of Helping Others
    02:31 Building for Yourself and Finding Your Market
    03:21 Discussing LangSesh
    03:49 Early Coding Journey
    08:14 The Fascination with Languages
    13:05 Discovering Esperanto
    20:03 Entrepreneurial Journey and Side Projects
    25:11 Challenges and Lessons Learned
    27:46 Transition to Digital Nomad Life
    31:49 Cutting Costs and Saving Time: Our Move to Vietnam
    33:32 Living Off Savings: The Reality of Our Journey
    35:11 The Ups and Downs of Life in Vietnam
    39:23 Introducing LangSesh: A New Language Learning Tool
    40:34 LangSesh Features and User Experience
    43:40 Challenges and Iterations: Improving LangSesh
    49:01 The Journey of Building LangSesh
    57:45 Validating and Launching LangSesh
    01:05:06 Feedback and Iteration
    01:06:13 Shipping Updates and Pricing Changes
    01:08:09 Challenges and Early Signals
    01:10:02 Marketing and Community Engagement
    01:14:24 Tech Stack and Development Philosophy
    01:19:53 Wins and Learnings
    01:26:13 Future Vision and Advice for Founders
    01:35:09 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

    Martin's Links

    LangSesh: https://langsesh.com
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/martinrue/
    X: https://x.com/martinrue

    Rob's Links

    Trial to Paid: https://trialtopaid.io
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/rbdmorgan
    X: https://x.com/rbdmorgan


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  • Jerad Maplethorpe (Hypertxt): From $3K to $2K MRR and Back Again – What I Learned From Churn
    2025/06/25

    In this episode of the Trial to Paid podcast, Rob Morgan chats with Jerad Maplethorpe, founder of Hypertxt, an AI-driven SEO article writing tool. Jerad shares his journey from ideating and building projects to focusing on creating profitable businesses. He delves into his guiding principles, his background in writing and web development, and the evolution of Hypertext. The conversation covers the successes and challenges Jerad faced, including targeting the right audience, pricing strategies, and the importance of user feedback. Despite facing hurdles such as churn and shifting user behaviour, Jerad highlights his ongoing passion for building products and his current work on a new tool aimed at simplifying the creation of newsletters. The episode is packed with valuable insights for aspiring founders, especially those interested in bootstrapping and indie hacking.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Jerad
    00:18 Guiding Principles in Business
    01:19 Discussing SaaS Product Hypertext
    01:43 Jerad's Background and College Days
    03:12 Early Web Development and Projects
    05:12 First Successful Product: Narrow
    08:11 Challenges and Lessons Learned
    09:19 Introduction to Hypertext
    10:49 Target Audience and User Experience
    23:18 Validation and Market Fit
    25:58 Competitors and Market Position
    31:27 Business Progress and Future Plans
    39:42 Understanding Customer Profiles
    40:01 The Benefits of Structured AI Tools
    42:10 Challenges in Marketing and Conversion
    42:49 Initial Trials and Marketing Strategies
    46:38 Building and Iterating the Product
    50:39 Tech Stack and Development Insights
    52:28 Key Wins and Learning from Failures
    01:01:27 Future Plans and Philosophies
    01:07:45 Advice for Aspiring Founders

    Jerad's Links

    Hypertxt: https://hypertxt.ai
    NewsletterOps: https://newsletterops.ai
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/maplethorpe/
    X: https://x.com/maplethorpej

    Rob's Links

    Trial to Paid: https://trialtopaid.io
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/rbdmorgan


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    1 時間 13 分
  • Mo Rassam (LiGo): From "Chief Failure Officer" to $5K MRR Helping B2B Teams Win on LinkedIn With AI
    2025/06/19

    In this episode of the Trial to Paid podcast, Rob Morgan chats with Mo Rassam, co-founder of LiGo, about the journey of building and growing AI-powered products and businesses. Mo shares guiding principles that have helped in shaping his career and startups, particularly around leveraging AI for automation and maintaining lean operations.

    The conversation touches upon the inception of LiGo, a full-stack LinkedIn automation tool aimed at optimizing LinkedIn content for various user segments like founders, agency owners, and independent consultants. Mo also delves into the evolution of his programming passion, initial coding experiences, and his venture into artificial intelligence and product development.

    The episode covers the significance of rapid prototyping, validation processes, SEO strategies using AI, and the challenges of differentiating LiGo in a competitive market. Mo emphasizes the importance of starting early in the tech field, the necessity of building quality products, and effectively leveraging multiple acquisition channels including Medium and Reddit.

    Lastly, future aspirations for LiGo and the broader company vision are outlined, providing listeners with valuable insights into startup growth and AI integration.


    Chapters

    00:00 Welcome and Introduction

    00:14 Guiding Principles in Business

    00:55 The Philosophy of AI in Business

    02:54 Journey into Coding and Early Career

    07:29 Founding Antimatter and Transition to LiGo

    10:41 Developing LiGo: Challenges and Strategies

    12:51 LiGo's Target Audience and Market Fit

    15:58 Product Features and Compliance

    24:49 Business Progress and Future Plans

    30:26 SEO and User Acquisition Strategies

    31:00 Addressing Customer Churn and Product Stickiness

    33:24 Paid Acquisition Experiments

    35:00 Building the MVP and Team Dynamics

    38:55 Effective Marketing Channels

    46:12 Challenges with LinkedIn

    50:02 Future Goals and Vision

    59:00 Advice for Aspiring Founders


    Mo's Links

    LiGo: https://ligo.ertiqah.com
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/muhammad-rassam/

    Rob's Links

    Trial to Paid: https://trialtopaid.io
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/rbdmorgan


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  • Bill Yang (Rybbit): From “Too Dumb to Code” to $1.6K in 35 Days
    2025/06/12

    In the very first episode of Trial to Paid, Rob Morgan chats with Bill Yang, the indie hacker behind Rybbit — a privacy-focused, open-source web analytics platform that hit $1.6K in revenue just 35 days after launch.

    Bill shares how he went from thinking he was “too dumb to code” in high school to building a high-traffic gaming analytics site (1.5M sessions/month) and then leveraging that experience to launch Rybbit. We dive into his origin story, why he chose open source, how he engineered a viral launch with zero ad spend, and what he’s learned along the way — including smart moves like embedding a live demo directly into his landing page.

    If you're into indie hacking, open source, or bootstrapping SaaS from scratch, this one’s packed with real talk and tactical insights.

    Chapters

    00:00 Welcome to the Trial to Paid Podcast

    00:21 Guiding Principles for Building Products

    03:45 The Journey to Becoming a Coder

    12:30 Early Entrepreneurial Ventures

    14:24 Building Tomato.gg

    19:10 Introducing Rybbit: A Google Analytics Alternative

    23:36 Rybbit's Market Position and Competitors

    28:18 Differentiating Through Design

    29:18 Building the Marketing Site

    30:08 Using AI Tools in Development

    30:56 Launching the Product

    33:10 Technical Stack and Frameworks

    35:14 Open Source Strategy

    42:50 Marketing and Promotion

    50:12 Reflections and Future Plans

    57:31 Advice for Aspiring Developers


    Bill's Links

    Rybbit: https://rybbit.io
    Tomato.gg: https://tomato.gg
    X: https://x.com/yang_frog
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-yang-/

    Rob's Links

    Trial to Paid: https://trialtopaid.io
    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/rbdmorgan


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