Daniel is reminded to get his affairs in order by Jill Schock, a death doula and end-of-life advocate. She is a Los Angeles native with experience in Hospice and as a Chaplain who guides clients and their families through the process of dying, including work with terminally ill patients choosing to end their own lives.

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Daniel goes into the studio with musician, songwriter, and producer Casey Kalmenson. Casey has toured the world as part of Gracie Abrams' band while also releasing her own music as Little Monarch. Daniel and Casey compare their experiences surfing in LA, living on the road, and dealing with a bad stomach.

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Daniel welcomes back his stylist Carrie for her life updates since he last interviewed her. They talk about world travels, living in the South Bay, and her new career as an artist. See Carrie's work at https://www.carriecramerart.com/

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