Tony Abbott AC, Australia’s 28th Prime Minister, joins me for a wide-ranging conversation about Australia’s past, present and future. We talk about the people and ideas that shaped modern Australia, our Indigenous heritage, British foundations and immigrant character, and Tony's belief that Australia needs to rediscover confidence in its own story.

The conversation also turns to some of the big debates facing the country today: energy and net zero, the future of productive industries, the quality of government and political leadership, and what Australians can do if they want to see change.

Closer to home, we discuss the controversial use of taxpayer-backed climate finance to support the conversion of Tasmania’s largest farm to plantation forestry, despite strong local opposition and concerns about jobs and agricultural production.

Tony also reflects on his time as Prime Minister, the MH17 tragedy, his proudest achievement in government, the future of the Liberal Party, and some of the books and ideas that have shaped his thinking.

Whatever your politics, I hope this conversation gives you something to think about.Good Company with Michael Ferguson is a place for conversations with interesting people who have stories, experiences and ideas worth sharing.Pull up a chair and enjoy some Good Company.

In this conversation:

• Australia’s history, identity and national confidence

• Indigenous heritage, British foundations and immigration

• Net zero, energy policy and Tasmania’s Rushy Lagoon controversy

• The future of the Liberal Party and Australian politics

• Leadership, conviction and getting involved

• Tony Abbott’s reflections on being Prime Minister

• MH17 and standing up for Australia’s interests

• The books and ideas that shaped his worldview