Episode Summary

There is a moment in almost every purpose journey when you realise that the direction you feel drawn toward makes no sense on paper. It does not match your childhood conditioning or the career path you once imagined or the expectations you absorbed from the people around you. And yet, something in you knows it is the next true step.

In this episode I sit down with NLP pioneer Fran Burgess, who grew up in a deeply scientific family and was expected to follow a familiar, logical route into the world of academia. Instead, she found herself pulled toward the study of people, perception and meaning, which eventually led her to become one of the most respected figures in NLP modelling and therapeutic transformation.

Fran shares how curiosity became her compass, how intuition gently challenged her early assumptions and how spirit began to weave itself quietly into her work long before she fully recognised it. We explore the difference between a life shaped by expectation and a life shaped by inner truth, and how purpose often grows slowly, revealing itself through lived experience rather than a single defining moment.

Inside this conversation we explore:

• The expectations that shaped Fran’s early life and the moment she realised her true path lay elsewhere

• How curiosity opened the doorway to NLP, human modelling and a deeper understanding of behaviour

• The gradual and powerful emergence of spirit within her work

• Why purpose is rarely linear and instead unfolds through resonance, experience and intuition

• What it feels like to follow a call that does not look sensible to others but feels unmistakably right to you

This episode is perfect for anyone who senses they are being guided somewhere new and needs reassurance that purpose often arrives quietly, grows slowly and becomes clearest when we stop trying to control it.

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Press play to hear how Fran followed the call that made little sense to the outside world yet became the truest foundation of her life’s work.

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So many of us overlook the very gifts that make us who we are. In this episode Lisa shares how our unique brilliance reveals itself in the simplest moments and why we so often miss it. A gentle, grounding reminder that you already carry somethingextraordinary.

Episode Summary

Have you ever felt that there must be something more for you, yet you can't quite name what that is? In this episode Lisa explores the truth of unique brilliance and why the qualities that come most naturally to us are often the ones we undervalue.

Through stories from her early career and her journey of finding her way forward in impossible situations, she reflects on how gifts that seem ordinary to us can be life changing for others. She also speaks honestly about the shadow side of brilliance, where over-giving, proving, and blurred boundaries begin to drain the very energy that makes us shine.

In this episode Lisa explores:• How your natural strengths reveal themselves long before you notice• Why your brilliance is separate from job titles and qualifications• The shadow side of your gift and how it can lead to burnout• What shifts when you reclaim your brilliance and let it guide you

This episode is perfect for anyone who senses a quiet nudge that they are ready for something truer and more fulfilling.

Episode Summary

There comes a moment in life when you realise you no longer have to follow the expected path - you can follow your own.

In this soulful, truth-filled dialogue between two kindred spirits, Lisa talks with Helen Pinkett, Intuitive Energy Healer and Creatrix of Community, about the many twists and turns of her life and the courage it takes to keep saying yes to what feels right, even when it makes no logical sense.

Helen shares how leaving school at sixteen with no qualifications led her to a twenty-year career in hospitality, before life began to gently nudge her toward energy work, creativity and deep human connection. Together, she and Lisa explore how intuition becomes a compass for change, how community can heal and elevate, and how creativity - from photography to modelling - can become a form of self-expression and empowerment.

Through laughter and real talk, Helen opens up about:

• Learning to trust her intuitive nudges and spiritual gifts

• The journey from hospitality to healing and community building

• The power of connection and why she loves holding space for others

• How modelling became an unexpected path to confidence and visibility

• The joy of women celebrating and lifting one another up

This is an affirming episode that celebrates the courage to follow your own energy, to build community through kindness, and to let your next chapter unfold intuitively one step at a time.

Perfect for:

Anyone who’s feeling the pull toward something new, who’s questioning the “shoulds,” or who’s ready to live and lead in a way that feels more aligned, creative and free.

Listen Now:

Press play and join Lisa and Helen for a soulful reminder that your path doesn’t have to be linear to be meaningful — it just has to be yours.

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📸 Instagram - @the_helen_pinkett