Early in his career, Jamie Mantzouridis was told something that actually made sense.

If you want to be taken seriously as a trainer, you need to look the part.

So he went all in.

He transformed his body, built credibility fast, and started getting results. But the deeper he went, the harder it became to see where the line was between discipline and damage.

This episode is about what happens when the thing that makes you credible starts to cost you more than it’s worth.

• (00:00:00) - Best Advice I Ever Got
• (00:00:44) - The Worst Advice You Ever Got
• (00:02:49) - Back to college: The partying and the work
• (00:03:49) - What did your life look like after you left university?
• (00:05:19) - Becoming a Personal Trainer Was An Instant Decision
• (00:10:20) - Diabetes Survivor on Taking Steroids
• (00:14:52) - The Biggest Bodybuilder Coach's Transformation
• (00:17:34) - The Secret to Becoming a Personal Trainer
• (00:20:42) - The Worst Advice I Ever Got

Early in her career, one comment from a CEO changed how Kacie Lett Gordon showed up at work. And like a lot of bad advice, it worked. She climbed fast, became a senior leader, and checked all the boxes.

But over time, that version of success started to cost her.

This episode is about what happens when you realize the advice that helped you succeed isn’t something you want to keep.

• (00:00:00) - The Worst Advice I Ever Got
• (00:00:44) - The Worst Advice You Ever Got
• (00:05:37) - Working Mother's Experiences
• (00:08:18) - How I Made a Different Kind of Pivot
• (00:12:31) - The Worst Advice You Ever Got
• (00:19:22) - What are the things that every single person on the planet can embody
• (00:24:10) - The Worst Advice I Ever Got