Guest: Talia Wolf, founder of GetUplift, CRO expert, and author of Emotional Targeting (hailed by Rand Fishkin as "the most revenue-changing book"). She has run thousands of conversion tests for brands like Bitly, Mercedes, and monday.com, driving results like a 172% increase in signups without changing a single traffic source.

Episode Summary:
Talia reveals why your website is no longer the center of the buying decision, how AI and LLMs are rewriting the customer journey, and why most A/B tests fail. From her proven Emotional Targeting framework to writing copy that actually converts, this is a masterclass in modern CRO—practical, deep, and packed with actionable strategies you can apply today.

Key Topics:

• Why "best practices" are killing your conversions & why design must always follow copy
• The Emotional Targeting framework & the emotional copywriting formula that actually works
• How to do impactful customer research (even with a tiny team)
• Optimizing your site for both humans and AI agents (the future of agentic buying)
• The #1 reason founders skip the most important step in A/B testing

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Disclaimer: Insights shared are based on personal experience and intended for educational purposes only. Results vary by market, execution, and timing. Adapt strategies to your specific business.

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