Property SourcingFrom PureGym to Property Deal Sourcing: Building a Business with CRM, AI and Networking | Sam Meese
How do you go from a stable career into property, build a new business from scratch and figure out which systems you actually need along the way?
In this episode of **The Upgrade Zone**, Daniel Chrzastek sits down with **Sam Meese**, a property deal sourcer from Kidderminster, to talk about his journey from martial arts and personal training to management at PureGym and eventually into full-time property entrepreneurship.
They explore mindset, networking, deal sourcing, business systems, CRM, AI and the practical reality of building a business when you are still doing almost everything yourself.
## In this episode- How martial arts shaped Sam's approach to discipline and self-development
- Moving from personal training into management at PureGym
- Realising he was climbing the wrong career ladder
- How Sam first became interested in property investing
- Moving from a rent-to-rent model into property deal sourcing
- Using networking to build relationships with investors and find opportunities
- Why cash flow determines what gets prioritised in the business
- The four principles Sam uses to guide his decisions
- Why a CRM became essential as the business started growing
- Using AI and property data tools to reduce research time
- How Sam uses ChatGPT for content, analysis and recalling previous work
- Why technology should support relationships rather than replace them
## Episode chapters00:00:16 Meet Sam Meese
00:02:42 Identity, self-development and always looking for the next level
00:05:05 How martial arts shaped Sam's mindset
00:07:08 Becoming a personal trainer
00:10:57 Turning martial arts into a career
00:13:45 Moving into management at PureGym
00:16:00 Coaching, leadership and climbing the career ladder
00:17:18 Discovering investing and property
00:20:03 Finding Samuel Leeds and entering the property world
00:23:00 The importance of environment and surrounding yourself with the right people
00:24:30 Using networking to create opportunities
00:25:55 Sam's original goal when entering property
00:26:30 Why the business changed from rent-to-rent to deal sourcing
00:27:30 Betting on himself and planning the move into full-time business
00:29:30 Building investor relationships before leaving employment
00:32:00 Why busyness is not business
00:32:40 Sam's four business principles
00:33:30 Prioritising cash flow and revenue-generating work
00:35:00 Work ethic, failure and taking action
00:38:00 Risk, resilience and learning from mistakes
00:41:20 The technology behind the business
00:43:09 Why Sam needed a CRM
00:45:40 Choosing Less Annoying CRM
00:47:25 Building property and investor pipelines
00:50:50 Connecting CRM, Google Calendar and contacts
00:53:00 Knowing when you have outgrown your software
00:55:00 Using data and ChatGPT to solve practical problems
00:56:00 Why CRM is the central hub of the business
01:01:00 How to choose the right software
01:01:00 Revisiting old deals using data and AI
01:02:00 Improving the tech stack as the business grows
01:03:12 Final thoughts
01:04:20 Why businesses need to keep adapting their technology
01:04:58 Using Property Market Intel
01:05:45 AI-powered property deal sourcing
01:07:05 How Sam uses ChatGPT
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