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What does it actually look like to live and lead in right relationship?

In this final episode of season 10, The UpLevel Podcast brings together two leaders who have been deeply embedded in this work, both in conversation and in real-time practice.

Over the past 15 months, we’ve explored right relationship across industries, identities, and lived experiences. It only felt right to close this chapter with Carlo Bos and Heather Davidson, whose partnership with UpLevel has become a living example of what right relationship can look like at scale.

Carlo is a leadership development expert, executive coach, and former co-CEO of the Co-Active Training Institute, and Heather Davidson is an innovative learning and development leader and strategic problem solver with nearly two decades of experience across Google, Amazon, and GE.

We’ll explore what it means to lead from self-acceptance and courageous conviction while remaining open enough to be shaped by others. We look at how co-creation, trust, and shared purpose become the foundation for effective leadership—and how presence, mindset, and nervous system regulation influence every interaction.

As we close this season on right relationship, this conversation becomes both a reflection and a bridge. A reflection of what we’ve been exploring together and a bridge into what’s next. Listen now!

In this episode, we’ll explore:

• What right relationship looks like in real leadership practice
• Self-acceptance, conviction, and adaptability in leadership
• Co-creation as a driver of performance and culture
• Designing relationships within complex organizations
• Leadership in the age of artificial intelligence
• The role of mindset, presence, and nervous system regulation
• Navigating power, hierarchy, and disagreement
• Building trust and alignment at scale
• Stewardship and thinking in generations, not just outcomes

Disclaimer: The views Heather Davidson shares in this conversation are her own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Google or any other current or former employer.

About Carlo:

Carlo Bos is a leadership development expert, executive coach, and former Co-CEO of the Co-Active Training Institute, where he led during a pivotal period of transformation from 2018 to 2023. Over the past 20 years, he has worked with executives across industries as an assessments expert, program designer, and master facilitator, building and scaling leadership programs that have reached thousands.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/boscompanyleadershipcoach/

About Heather:
Heather Davidson is an innovative Learning and Development leader and strategic problem solver with nearly two decades of experience at Google, Amazon, and GE. She views leadership as the ultimate lever for business performance and specializes in translating complex strategy into behavioral change and measurable results.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-davidson-be-awesome/

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How do we connect to our purpose and bring people and entire industries into right relationship for good?

This week on The UpLevel Podcast, we’re joined by Debbie Levin, CEO of the Environmental Media Association. Since taking over EMA in 2000, Debbie has helped transform the organization into a powerful force for change, harnessing the influence of media and entertainment to pioneer a high-impact model of environmental activism.

In this conversation, we explore how Debbie authentically embodies the voice of sustainable living, using storytelling and cultural influence to move awareness into action, and ultimately into real solutions.

We also reflect on how right relationship begins within ourselves, and how authenticity, presence, and community can help guide us through uncertain times.

This is a conversation about purpose, stewardship, courage, and the power of living in alignment with who you truly are.

In This Episode:

• How authenticity and genuine connection transform both business partnerships and personal relationships
• Explore how powerful bonds form when people come together around shared values and purpose
• Gain insights on protecting your well-being in an era of media overload, misinformation, and constant global tension
• How confidence and self-trust grow over time, and why letting go of people-pleasing can unlock true leadership
• Follow Debbie’s unexpected journey into the Environmental Media Association
• Learn how storytelling and celebrity influence can shift culture and bring sustainability into the mainstream
• Reflections on her Jewish heritage and the emotional complexity of navigating rising global tensions
• Reflections on heritage, resilience, and the responsibility to future generations

About Debbie:

Debbie Levin, CEO of EMA, has been singular in harnessing the power of the media and entertainment communities to pioneer a high-impact model of social activism since taking over the organization in 2000. Debbie has her pulse on the millennial generation and is known as the consummate connector within the global celebrity world, the corporate world, and the sustainability communities. She authentically embodies the iconic persona and voice, clearly embracing and educating the sustainable lifestyle. She utilizes storytelling and message development to drive awareness into action and solutions. Over her 26 years as CEO of EMA, she has expanded the organization to serve as a leading tool to connect industries, brands, influencers, and entrepreneurs in order to collaborate, advocate, and drive action, empowering individuals and the corporate world.

Website: https://www.green4ema.org/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbie-levin-656b892/

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What does “right relationship” actually look like over nearly 50 years of partnership?

This week on The UpLevel Podcast, join us for a deeply human and unexpectedly playful conversation as we sit down with Master Certified Coaches Cynthia and David Darst, senior faculty with the Co-Active Training Institute and CRR Global and life partners, to explore how right relationship is more than just a destination… it’s a living, evolving practice.

Cynthia also shares powerful insights from her book, Meet Your Inside Team, and explains how doing your internal work prevents you from projecting your fears and stories onto the people you love.

This episode is full of laughter, lived wisdom, humility, and the kind of insight that only comes from decades of choosing each other again and again.

In this episode, we’ll explore:

• Why right relationship doesn’t mean harmony
• The importance of learning how to “fight clean”
• The power of taking your own side without attacking the other
• What it means to practice not knowing your partner
• How to recover when you miss each other
• Designing co-leadership consciously
• Staying in relationship even through the reality of death
• And why you’re never holding the relationship alone

About Team Darst:

Cynthia Loy Darst, MCC, and David Darst, MCC, are Team Darst.

With more than 50 years of combined coaching experience, Cynthia and David have traveled the world working with teams and training others in the skills that elevate coaching, leadership, and everyday life.

Both are senior faculty members with The Co-Active Training Institute (CTI) and with CRR Global (formerly The Center for Right Relationship).

Cynthia’s book, Meet Your Inside Team, has significantly influenced how they each work with individuals. The concepts they teach through both CTI and CRR are deeply integrated into their client work—as well as into their own partnership.

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