How did the fishing industry become what we know it as today?

Dylan is joined by Patrick Marbury of Rebel Lures to dive into the pioneering history of one of fishing’s most influential lure brands.

Rebel played a major role in bringing mass-produced, affordable, and accessible fishing lures to anglers everywhere—helping shape the fishing industry we know today.

And they’re not done pioneering.

Today, Rebel continues to push the industry forward while working to keep fishing affordable, accessible, and enjoyable for everyone.

The history of Rebel Lures. The evolution of fishing. And where the industry goes next.

What actually happens when a species is listed as threatened or endangered? Who makes those decisions? And what does wildlife law mean for hunters and conservation?

Dylan sits down with wildlife law attorney Mike Oropallo and Pope & Young Executive Director Justin Spring for a deep dive into the laws, policies, and international agreements that shape wildlife conservation in the United States and around the world.

This conversation goes far beyond grizzly bears. We break down the Endangered Species Act, the 4(d) Rule, Chevron deference, Loper Bright, CITES, IUCN classifications, delisting criteria, and the role of socioeconomic factors in conservation decisions.

In this episode, we discuss:

• The 4(d) Rule and what it means for threatened species like grizzly bears • Chevron deference (1984) and why it mattered to wildlife law • Loper Bright (2024) and the end of Chevron deference • What the Endangered Species Act actually means by “harm” • The difference between threatened vs. endangered species under the ESA • What criteria are used to delist a species • How the IUCN classifies species and how that differs from U.S. law • What CITES is and how its listing system works • The role of the United States delegation in CITES • CITES listing criteria and potential changes being considered • Whether socioeconomic factors should play a role in conservation decisions • How socioeconomic considerations differ between CITES and the ESA • How species can be upgraded, downgraded, or removed from CITES Appendices • The role hunters play in wildlife conservation and management • Why understanding wildlife law matters to the future of hunting

Wildlife conservation is complicated—and the laws governing it can have enormous consequences for hunters, wildlife, landowners, and the animals themselves.

If you care about hunting, conservation, and the future of North American wildlife, you don’t want to miss this conversation.

Dylan sits down with three passionate women hunters—Courtney Kaufmann, Meghan Krohn, and Raegan Cox—to talk about their journey into the outdoors, the misconceptions surrounding women in hunting, and why more women are embracing the hunting lifestyle than ever before.

From building confidence in the field to finding mentors, overcoming challenges, and sharing unforgettable hunting experiences, this conversation offers an honest perspective that every hunter—man or woman—can appreciate.

The discussion also explores the importance of properly fitting hunting apparel and how confidence grows when your gear is designed specifically for you.

One of the most powerful moments of the conversation centers around one of the biggest fears many hunters—especially women—face: wounding an animal. It’s a heartbreaking experience that causes some hunters to quit and keeps others from ever starting. Courtney, Meghan, and Raegan openly share their personal stories, how they worked through those difficult moments, and offer encouragement to anyone who has experienced the same thing or fears it could happen.

Whether you’re a lifelong hunter, just getting started, or simply curious about the growing role of women in hunting, this episode is filled with authentic stories, practical advice, and meaningful conversations.

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