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The Third Thing

The Third Thing

著者: Michelle Koffler & Danyelle Caruthers
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A podcast Hosted by Michelle & Danyelle: a coach and a therapist, an interracial and queer best friend pair of 26 years. The Third Thing is where we are naming and confronting the topics that challenge us in platonic relationships. On friendship and race, money, sobriety, politics, when we drift or breakup, and the jealousy nobody admits to. Each week we spill the tea from our hurdles, and offer up the tools we’ve learned along the way.




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  • Episode 10: On Friendship and the Grief of Drifting
    2026/08/06

    You know that friend you keep meaning to text back? The one where you scroll up in the thread and realize it's been six months, then a year, then you've lost track? There was no fight or blowup, just the silence that crept in until one day you looked up and they weren't in your circle anymore. That's drifting.

    This week, Michelle and Danyelle unpack the quiet ending nobody talks about: friendships that fade without a villain, a fight, or closure. They walk through the difference between structural drift (geography, life stages) and relational drift (just growing apart), and Michelle reads a real, unsent letter she wrote to a friend she's drifted from, a decade-plus friendship that dissolved into unanswered texts. They get into what it means to take accountability for your part in a drift without turning it into self-blame, and close out Season One with a two-card tarot pull on new beginnings and the foundation they've built together.

    In This Episode

    • The difference between structural drift and relational drift
    • Why drifting can hurt more than a breakup because there's no closure
    • Danyelle's story of a friendship that quietly faded over years
    • Michelle reads the unsent letter she wrote to a drifted friend
    • Using letter-writing as a grief tool, and how to decide whether to send it
    • Taking accountability for your part in a drift without self-blame
    • A Season One wrap-up and a two-card pull: Page of Swords and Page of Pentacles

    Resources

    Sign up for our guides: The Letter You'll Never Send and A Guide to Your Cut & Clear Ceremony

    Reflection Questions

    • Which of your friendships has quietly faded without a clear reason why?
    • Have you ever grieved a friendship you never officially "lost"?
    • What would it take to reach back out, or to finally let it go?

    Connect With Us
    📸 Instagram: @thethirdthingpod
    🌐 Website: TheThirdThingPod.com
    🎧 Join our Patreon community for monthly events, deeper conversations, early access, workbooks, and more.
    If this episode resonated with you, share it with a friend and leave a rating or review. It helps more people find the show and keeps the conversation going about friendship, growth, and what it means to show up for each other.

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    35 分
  • Episode 9: Money Differences in Friendship - When Your Incomes Don't Match
    2026/07/30

    You've never told your best friend what you actually make. Or you have, and you watched their face change. Money might be the last real taboo in friendship, more off-limits than sex, more off-limits than politics, and it's quietly shaping who feels safe going to who for what.

    Michelle and Danyelle trace their own money stories back to childhood, growing up feeling scarcity in a wealthy area, absorbing very different lessons about what success and entrepreneurship meant, and carrying those wounds into 26 years of friendship. They get honest about the years their incomes have flip-flopped in both directions, the shame underneath "I can't afford that," and what it means to keep showing up for each other when one person can pay for dinner and the other can't.

    In This Episode

    • Our first memories of money, scarcity, and what success looked like growing up
    • Why money is treated as more taboo than almost anything else in friendship
    • The years our incomes flip-flopped, and what that brought up
    • The shame behind "I can't afford that" and learning to say it out loud
    • Race, privilege, and who gets the runway to build wealth
    • Redefining "value" in a friendship beyond who's picking up the check
    • The Page of Cups tarot pull on curiosity and bringing lightness to hard conversations

    Resources

    • Sign up for all TTT workbooks and guides here
    • Feel-Good Finance by Aja Evans - Financial therapist, focuses on the psychology and mindset behind money habits, not just budgeting math.
    • The Financial Diet by Chelsea Fagan - more mainstream but solid on the emotional-relationship-with-money angle, good crossover pick for a broader audience.
    • Unicorn Millionaire Podcast - hosted by Charly Stoever (nonbinary Latinx money coach), explicitly for LGBTQ+, BIPOC, and first-gen folks. Frames wealth-building as identity and grief work, not just numbers. Very on-brand for your audience.
    • SAGECents (via SAGE) - free financial literacy platform, originally built for LGBTQ+ elders but genuinely useful material on anyone navigating financial precarity later in life.

    Reflection Questions

    • Have you ever told a friend what you actually make?
    • What would it take to have that conversation?
    • Is there an imbalance in one of your friendships that's never been named out loud?

    Connect With Us
    📸 Instagram: @thethirdthingpod
    🌐 Website: TheThirdThingPod.com
    🎧 Join our Patreon community for monthly events, deeper conversations, early access, workbooks, and more.

    If this episode resonated with you, share it with a friend and leave a rating or review. It helps more people find the show and keeps the conversation going about friendship, growth, and what it means to show up for each other.

    Support the show

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    38 分
  • Episode 8: How to Stay Friends When Life Pulls You Apart
    2026/07/23

    📍 Content warning. This episode includes a discussion of a suicide attempt starting at 6:09 and running through 8:42. Please take care of yourself while listening. Skip ahead if you need to. If you or somebody you know is struggling, the 988 suicide and crisis line is available 24-7 by call or text.📍

    You left the friend group chat on read for six months and it wasn't a fight, it was just life. School. A new city. A relationship. A marriage. A baby. If you've ever wondered whether going quiet on your best friend means the friendship is over, this episode is for you.

    Michelle and Danyelle trace the full arc of their own friendship, from splitting up at 15 when Danyelle left their high school, through different cities, different relationships, and into marriage and parenthood, to make the case that drifting apart isn't a verdict on a friendship. It's what happens when two people are actually out there living. The real work isn't preventing the distance. It's choosing, deliberately, to find your way back.

    In This Episode

    • Why leaving high school became the first of many life-stage divergences
    • Moving to different cities, and what it costs a friendship when proximity disappears
    • The couch conversation where one of them finally said "I feel abandoned"
    • How attachment styles and nonviolent communication changed how they show up for each other now
    • Becoming a "third parent" and what it means to rebuild closeness after marriage and kids
    • A two-card tarot pull (Knight of Swords and The Fool) on trust, journey, and taking the leap

    Reflection Questions

    • Which of your friendships is in a quiet chapter right now?
    • What life stage pulled you away from someone you love?
    • What would it take to check in, and what's stopping you?

    Connect With Us
    📸 Instagram: @thethirdthingpod
    🌐 Website: TheThirdThingPod.com
    🎧 Join our Patreon community for monthly events, deeper conversations, early access, workbooks, and more.

    If this episode resonated with you, share it with a friend and leave a rating or review. It helps more people find the show and keeps the conversation going about friendship, growth, and what it means to show up for each other.

    Support the show

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    54 分
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