Ahead of their sixth Best Chapter Yet retreat, Kari and Lisa talk about why time spent in the company of other women can be so powerful. Women in their 20s through their 70s have attended these retreats, finding the rare opportunity to be fully seen, heard, supported and witnessed—without having to take care of anyone else or prove anything about who they are. Some return again and again because that kind of connection continues to matter; for others, attending once created exactly the clarity, belonging or shift they needed.

In this conversation, Kari and Lisa reflect on what these weekends have meant to the women who attend, what they have meant in their own lives, and why they plan to keep creating them for as long as they can. The next Best Chapter Yet retreat will take place April 9–11, 2027, at the Crowne Plaza Resort in Chandler, Arizona, just outside Phoenix. Early-bird pricing is available through October 31, 2026; listen to the episode for the discount code. [LEARN MORE AND REGISTER HERE]

At 85, Patricia Morin is proof that it is never too late to begin a whole new chapter. Kari and Lisa sit down with Kari's mom to talk about the many lives she has lived: growing up as the oldest of six, welcoming her Vietnamese daughter Soi into the family through foster care, building a nearly 50-year marriage, raising four very different children, leading major church and community events, beginning again after the death of her husband, and learning how to love adult children without trying to direct their lives. Most of all, they talk about Pat's decision to leave the home and community she had known for nearly 50 years and, in her 80s, create a new home, new friendships, and a rich new life. Inspired by the loving toasts shared at her 85th-birthday celebration, this is a conversation about family, community, legacy, and never being afraid to try something new.

"In a real sense, if you don't vote, you don't exist." Recording just after the death of Gloria Steinem, Kari and Lisa talk about why voting in the 2026 election matters—and why participating in democracy means more than casting our own ballots. They discuss threats facing election workers, changing voting laws, AI-generated misinformation, the importance of getting election information from trusted sources, and the privilege of having the time, access, and resources that make voting relatively easy. They also ask what each of us can do to make voting easier for someone else—and invite listeners to consider one essential question before casting a ballot: What am I voting to protect, and who am I remembering besides myself when I vote? Check your registration and find current voting information at Vote.gov, get help through the nonpartisan Election Protection hotline at 866-OUR-VOTE, or learn how to become a poll worker.