What powers the economy of the future?

In Episode 40 of the Tao of Chao Podcast, Philip Chao welcomes Tyler Rosenlicht for a conversation about infrastructure, energy, commodities, and the long-term trends shaping the global economy.

As artificial intelligence, electrification, and rising global demand increase the need for reliable infrastructure, Tyler explains why investors should look beyond technology itself and consider the essential assets that support modern economies.

Key insights include:

• Why infrastructure is more than roads and bridges
• How real assets can improve portfolio diversification
• The relationship between inflation and infrastructure investing
• Why electricity demand is entering a new growth cycle
• How AI is reshaping infrastructure and energy needs

This episode explores how infrastructure, real assets, and energy may play an increasingly important role in tomorrow's economy.

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Philip Chao
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DISCLOSURE: Views expressed in the Tao of Chao podcasts are individual opinions and they do not represent the employers of each guest or the firm with which each guest is associated. Our podcasts are for educational and informational purposes only and should not be deemed or viewed as investment advice or recommendations. Please consult your personal financial advisor, investment expert, or investment fiduciary before taking any actions about your plan and investments.

How much of our potential do we leave behind simply because something feels uncomfortable?

In Episode 39 of the Tao of Chao Podcast, Philip Chao speaks with NASCAR driver and keynote speaker Julia Landauer about how discomfort, risk, and resilience influence long-term success.

Julia reflects on her experience in racing, where failure is frequent and recovery is essential, and how that mindset translates into career decisions, personal growth, and navigating uncertainty.

Key insights include:
• Why discomfort is not a valid reason to avoid action
• How repetition builds confidence over time
• The importance of setting a clear long-term direction
• Why embracing failure improves resilience
• How to evaluate risk with both preparation and perspective

This episode explores how growth often begins in the moments we instinctively want to avoid.

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Philip Chao
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DISCLOSURE: Views expressed in the Tao of Chao podcasts are individual opinions and they do not represent the employers of each guest or the firm with which each guest is associated. Our podcasts are for educational and informational purposes only and should not be deemed or viewed as investment advice or recommendations. Please consult your personal financial advisor, investment expert, or investment fiduciary before taking any actions about your plan and investments.

What if the biggest risk in retirement planning isn’t market volatility—but believing you’re prepared when you’re not?

In Episode 38 of the Tao of Chao Podcast, Renee Scherzer interviews Philip Chao on the core philosophy behind his book From Save to Safe.

Drawing on decades of fiduciary experience, Philip challenges the traditional “401(k) mindset” and outlines a path to reach sustainable retirement income.

While modern systems have made it easier than ever to save, Philip argues they have most still under save and the system has not solved for what actually matters: opportunities and distribution methodologies in generating sustainable income in retirement.

Using the Save to Safe framework, this conversation explores how “mindless participation” under the current employer sponsor defined contribution set up —combined with system design—can create a false sense of security and leave participants underprepared.

Key insights include:
• Why saving is only the first phase—not the outcome
• How the current system can create the illusion of readiness
• The hidden risks behind mindless participation
• Why fiduciary responsibility must extend beyond plan design
• How behavior and system structure together shape outcomes

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Listen to the full episode to understand why retirement planning doesn’t end with saving—and what it really takes to move from Save to Safe.

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Philip Chao
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DISCLOSURE: Views expressed in the Tao of Chao podcasts are individual opinions and they do not represent the employers of each guest or the firm with which each guest is associated. Our podcasts are for educational and informational purposes only and should not be deemed or viewed as investment advice or recommendations. Please consult your personal financial advisor, investment expert, or investment fiduciary before taking any actions about your plan and investments.