Curt and Melody get real about how different communities have shaped their lives as entrepreneurs .. from women’s business meetups to sales conferences and even working with international teams. Melody talks about what it felt like to step into new circles and suddenly question where she really belonged, while Curt shares the surprise of joining a sales group he never thought would be “his” kind of space.

They trade stories about what it’s like to work with people in the Philippines, handle everyday challenges, and push through bigger setbacks along the way. The conversation naturally drifts into what happens when your assumptions get challenged, and how both big rooms and small, tight-knit groups can offer support in totally unexpected ways.

By the end, Curt and Melody concluded on what makes a group feel right and why building the kind of community you actually want takes a little intention, a lot of curiosity, and the flexibility to try things that might feel uncomfortable at first.

No perfect formula, just honest reflections on why finding spaces that really “click” is worth it.

Certainty feels good.

It gives us the illusion of control.

But when we hold tight to being “right,” it can make us less open, less curious, and less willing to consider other people’s experiences. That gap can lead us to act in ways that don’t match the values we say we care about.

This week, Curt and Melody talk certainty, how religion can shape moral blind spots, when confidence supports leadership and when it gets in the way, and how to stay connected to people who believe differently while still holding your own convictions.

This episode will be a thought provoking listen whether you are certain, uncertain, or somewhere in between.

This year? It’s been a lot.

Inflation, AI chaos, hiring struggles, tension in the air... and yet, here comes Thanksgiving, asking us to be grateful. So what does that even look like when your legs are cramping (figuratively or otherwise) and your business is running on fumes?

In this special Thanksgiving episode, Curt and Melody take a break from the business to reflect on what it actually means to lead with gratitude, not just when things are good, but when you’re tired, depleted, and trying to find meaning in the middle of it all.

They cover:

• Why exhaustion doesn’t always look like burnout (but still matters)
• How leaders spiral -and what it takes to break the cycle
• The danger of over-thanking your team (yep, that’s a thing)
• Traditions, turkey, and why leftovers are a metaphor for leadership
• The one thing Curt and Melody are most grateful for this year
• And yes, we promise: there’s a reason we talk about pickle juice.

This one’s a warm, honest, slightly weird episode.

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