Find full show notes and links at: https://gocamp.pro/the-pudding/transformative

In this episode, Dr. Mandi Baker and Travis Allison sit down with Meghan Gardner, CEO of Guardian Adventures and a pioneer in transformative game design. With over 25 years of experience - ranging from running LARP (Live Action Role Playing) camps to speaking at the UN General Assembly - Meghan shares a repeatable framework for turning standard camp activities into life-changing experiences. The conversation explores how "framing" an experience through invitation, calibration, and debriefing can lead to a sustained change in behavior. Meghan also dives into the concept of "alibi" in role-play, the importance of de-escalation training for staff, and how camp directors can move away from hierarchical power structures to truly empower their counselors and campers.

• 04:09 Belonging and Camp Growth
• 08:36 Defining Transformative Games
• 10:30 Framing and Calibration
• 19:00 Debrief Tools
• 25:37 Power and Empowerment
• 28:09 Roleplay Based Staff Training
• 32:07 Designing Better Scenarios
• 35:34 Apply Training Beyond Camp

Your Hosts

• Dr. Mandi Baker, Researcher - Summer Camp, Outdoor Recreation, Sociology and Hospitality/Tourism - getlamped@gmail.com
• Travis Allison, Summer Camp Consultant - Go Camp Pro - travis@gocamp.pro
• Meghan Gardner, CEO, Guardian Adventures

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