n a culture that glorifies the hustle, choosing to rest can feel like a revolutionary act. Licensed therapist, founder of Burn Bright Consulting, and host of Black Girl Burnout podcast, and 2025 Savvy Ladies Female FinFluencer Achievement Award Kelley Bonner shares her journey from clinical burnout to building a life centered on joy. She offers a radical perspective on ambition, arguing that much of what we call drive is actually conditioning. Listen for practical tools to dismantle the systems that drain your energy and learn how to finally give yourself permission to just be.

In this episode, you’ll learn about:

• Redefining Burnout: Why burnout is a systemic problem, not a personal failure.
• Being Present: How to stop performing for others and start living in alignment with your own needs.
• Ambition vs. Conditioning: Why women of color often carry societal conditioning that is disguised as personal ambition.
• Restorative Tools: Practical, five-minute exercises you can use to regulate your nervous system and restore your sense of safety.
• Reclaiming Joy: Why reclaiming joy is a powerful way to honor yourself and the women who came before you.

Hear ways to give yourself the grace you deserve. Listen now.

Important Links:

• Savvy Ladies
• Precious Williams' LinkedIn
• Lisa Zeiderman's LinkedIn
• Kelley Bonner's LinkedIn

Important Links for

• Burn Bright Business Consulting

About Kelley Bonner:

Kelley Bonner is a transformational specialist and licensed therapist dedicated to helping women overcome burnout and reclaim their joy. As the founder of Burn Bright Consulting and host of the top-rated podcast Black Girl Burnout—which has surpassed 1 million downloads Kelley guides individuals on a journey to authenticity and empowerment.

Drawing on her own experience of overcoming clinical burnout, Kelley combines her expertise in social work and criminal justice to create transformative spaces for growth. Anita Hill has described her work as “revolutionary,” and the Pentagon has called her “a benchmark in her field.”

Kelley’s mission is to help women opt out of struggle and into a life filled with purpose, joy, and resilience. Through Burn Bright Consulting, she provides individuals and organizations with the tools they need to thrive.

Are your subconscious beliefs about money holding your business back? This week, Lisa and Precious welcome Ruchi Pinniger, a venture capital investor and the founder of Watch Her Prosper®. Ruchi shares her journey from a successful Wall Street career to becoming a financial mentor for women entrepreneurs. She explains why traditional financial advice often fails without addressing the underlying money mindset. Ruchi discusses her signature RIR Method™ for recognizing, interrupting, and reframing negative self-talk to cultivate a feeling of abundance. Listen in to learn how to connect your self-worth to your net worth and build a shame-free relationship with your finances for lasting profitability and growth.

What You’ll Hear:

• Heal Your Mindset, Grow Your Revenue: Learn why a healthy money story is the most critical asset for unlocking your financial success.
• From Inspiration to Action: Hear how Ruchi was inspired by her immigrant single mother’s journey and how that shaped her mission to empower other women financially.
• The Worthiness Equation: Learn how the price you put on your time and expertise, from project fees to your annual salary, is a mirror of your own feeling of worthiness.
• Find Your Magic Number: Hear the one question every entrepreneur should ask to align their business revenue with their personal financial goals to fund their ideal life.

Important Links:

• Savvy Ladies
• Precious Williams' LinkedIn
• Lisa Zeiderman's LinkedIn
• Ruchi Pinniger's LinkedIn

Important Links for Ruchi:

• Watch Her Prosper Website

About Ruchi Pinniger:

Ruchi Pinniger, International Speaker, Venture Capital Investor, Founder and CEO of Watch Her Prosper®, is dedicated to providing financial mentorship, support and services that women-led service-based businesses need to succeed. Recently named one of the “Women Leading the Finance Industry,” Ruchi’s signature approach fosters shame-free empowerment, enabling clients to achieve significant results in profitability and economic growth. Ruchi leverages her years of experience on Wall Street to provide expert advice on financial leadership, tax-time readiness, and small business finances.

She is dedicated to philanthropy, serving on the executive boards of Savvy Ladies and the Pajama Program. Recognized with the Entrepreneur Community Leadership Award 2024, she is committed to helping entrepreneurs thrive, and cherishes moments with her family exploring food and diverse cultures around the world.

Certified Financial Therapist Erika Wasserman returns to The Power of the Ask to discuss how women can stop feeling shame around money and start building more confidence. Learn how a “personal board of directors” can help you on your financial journey. This conversation provides the tools you need to rewrite your money story and build a supportive community that helps you move forward.

Key Takeaways

• Asking for Help is a Strength: Leaning on your community during difficult times allows others to show up for you, strengthening your relationships and helping everyone involved.
• Make Your Ask Specific: Vague requests get vague results. To get what you need, practice making your asks direct and targeted.
• Confidence is a Practiced Skill: A lack of financial confidence doesn’t mean you’re bad with money, it just means you haven’t practiced yet.
• Boundaries Create Freedom: Setting financial boundaries isn’t just about saying “no.” Create intentional rules that work for you, which may include saying “yes” to the right things in moderation.

Important Links:

• Savvy Ladies
• Precious Williams' LinkedIn
• Lisa Zeiderman's LinkedIn

Important Links for Erika:

• Erika Wasserman's LinkedIn
• Your Financial Therapist Website

About Erika Wasserman:

Erika Wasserman, the visionary CEO and founder of Your Financial Therapist, established the company in 2019 with a mission to transform how people view and manage their financial lives. As a Certified Financial Therapist (CFT-I™)—a prestigious certification held by fewer than 70 professionals worldwide—Erika blends her expertise in finance and international economics with her passion for empowering individuals, couples, and organizations to rethink their relationship with money.

She is also the creator of the innovative Let’s Talk Finances: Financial Wellness Conversation Cards. This unique tool features 50 thought-provoking questions designed to spark meaningful conversations about money, fostering financial clarity and emotional connection.

Erika’s academic credentials include a Bachelor of Business Administration (BBA) from the University of Florida and a Graduate Certificate in Financial Therapy from Kansas State University. Her work reflects a deep commitment to financial well-being, making her a trusted expert in financial therapy.