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Financial aid isn’t paperwork—it’s people. Rachel Gordon, Vice President for Student Financial Services at the American University of Antigua College of Medicine, joins Kevin and Brody to explore why money conversations are deeply personal, how advisors and aid professionals can work together, and what changing regulations mean for students.

Along the way, they debate potluck safety, small-town waves, homemade ice cream, and the greatest cakes and pies of all time. Come for the FAFSA talk; stay for the pistachio ice cream.

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Pumpkin spice, giant skeletons, dishwasher drama—nothing is safe in this “just us” episode! Kevin and Brody kick things off with a fall-themed round of Overrated or Underrated before tackling a bigger question: Do advising models and systems drive student success, or does genuine care matter more?

They explore campus culture, the challenge of turning “pretty good” into excellent, and why checking in with students—and colleagues—can make all the difference. Plus, they draft their top comfort shows, from Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The West Wing to Ted Lasso, Parks and Recreation, M*A*S*H, and Schitt’s Creek. Cozy up and join a conversation that’s equal parts meaningful, candid, and delightfully off-script.

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Packing lists, pie plans, and plenty of conference buzz—Kevin and Brody are headed to Oklahoma City for NACADA! Join them for a lively pre-conference catch-up on travel essentials, too many shoes, presenting together for the first time, and the sessions, friends, and food they can’t wait to experience.

Then, they dive into a big question for higher ed: how can we communicate with students in ways that actually cut through the noise? From personalized outreach and smarter subject lines to using AI as a helpful tool—not a replacement for human connection—they share practical ideas for making messages matter. Plus, stick around for their top movie soundtrack songs, complete with ‘80s montages, Celine Dion, and a few delightfully debatable picks.

*The Pickup Meeting is a spinoff of the Adventures in Advising podcast!

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