The Philosopher Who Debated Anthropic on What's Left When AI Takes Your Job
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"Look, if you win a competition that ends up annihilating the human race or creating these incredibly negative types of societies, what have you actually won in the end?"~ Samuel KimbrielSamuel Kimbriel recently sat across from Anthropic co-founder Jack Clark on stage at the Times Center in New York, in a conversation billed as AI and the Future of Society. Clark opened with the premise that recursive self-improvement, a machine designing its own successor, could arrive as early as 2028. Kimbriel was asking a different question. He still is.If you've asked what happens to your own sense of purpose in an AI economy, wondered whether "AI needs philosophers" is more than a headline, or felt the isolation creeping into your own life and wanted the vocabulary for it, this one is for you.🎙 Disruptor Confessions explores the human, ethical, and strategic dimensions of technological disruption.🚀 Key topics discussed:The Sycophancy Confession: Why Kimbriel says the thing he dislikes most about this technology is that it always tells you you're the most brilliant person in the room.What Have You Actually Won: Kimbriel's answer to the "China will beat us" argument, and why he thinks winning the wrong race is still losing.The Loneliness Thesis: How his PhD work on isolation led to a new project called "The Future of Love," and why he thinks AI companionship breaks human proximity in the opposite direction social media did.What Is Human Agency, Really: Why computer science's definition, the capacity to delegate tasks, isn't what philosophers mean by the word at all.Every Right Implies a Duty: Simone Weil, the abundance argument for AI-driven leisure, and why Kimbriel doesn't buy it.Jack Clark and the Debate That Started This Episode: How a casual argument about AI consciousness became a 75-minute public conversation at the Times Center.Amanda Askell and Claude's Constitution: The philosopher with a PhD under David Chalmers who is, by Kimbriel's account, the one person Claude seems most afraid of disappointing.Can You Train Judgment and Taste: John pushes back with an example of a model losing consciousness across the board when it stopped seeing itself as conscious. Kimbriel's answer is no, and here's why.One Question for Five CEOs: If Kimbriel had one question for Musk, Zuckerberg, Hassabis, Amodei, and Altman on a single panel, this is it."It's always why. It's always why."~ Samuel KimbrielGuest:𝗗𝗿. 𝗦𝗮𝗺𝘂𝗲𝗹 𝗞𝗶𝗺𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗹 Founding Director, Philosophy and Society Initiative, The Aspen Institute Editor-at-Large, Wisdom of Crowds Author, Friendship as Sacred Knowing: Overcoming IsolationAspen Institute: https://www.aspeninstitute.org/people/samuel-kimbriel/ Wisdom of Crowds: https://wisdomofcrowds.live/ Twitter/X: @sckimbriel
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