Justin's been using Stripe Sigma to learn a lot more about the history of revenue at Transistor. He had a phone call with Jason Cohen about how to get what you want out of your business. And Brian talks through the same frameworks to figure out what might work best for Builder Methods including exploration of courses, cohorts, community, and more.

Timestamps:

• (00:06) - We're back!
• (00:59) - Brian's healthcare journey
• (09:36) - Deep dive into Stripe Sigma and Transistor's history
• (37:38) - Asking yourself the hard questions about your business
• (42:12) - The value of taking a win now
• (57:29) - What does Brian want with BuilderMethods
• (01:14:35) - Rob Snyder's Pull framework
• (01:30:48) - Can you do community well without the time commitment?
• (01:35:17) - Cohort vs courses
• (01:57:23) - How long is a long podcast episode?

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Links mentioned in this episode

• Jason Cohen: About the author
• Mostly Technical
• ChartMogul | CRM & Subscription Analytics built for B2B SaaS growth
• Message from Paddle
• Kit: Email-First Operating System for Creators (formerly ConvertKit)
• Build Your SaaS | The “charge more” debate
• Average Podcast Downloads: Podcast Measurement and Growth
• Finding Fulfillment
• Agent OS | A free open-source system to train smart AI coding agents
• The PULL framework - by Rob Snyder
• Jay Clouse - Creator Science
• Learn Laravel | Laracasts
• Wes Bos
• Learn Ruby on Rails | GoRails

Justin is wondering whether AI customer support is worth it. Brian is navigating the emotional rollercoaster of YouTube. He's wondering whether he should pursue sponsorships as a revenue stream. Brian introduces Agent OS, a new development tool designed to streamline coding processes when working with AI tooling (which got a big reaction during the live stream).

Timestamps:

• (00:33) - Justin's experiment with AI support chat bots
• (15:20) - Do you want AI writing your responses?
• (19:06) - Trying to figure out why Brian's latest video didn't work as well
• (26:35) - How important is it to keep publishing every week?
• (30:56) - Thinking sponsorship vs products
• (45:36) - The value of community
• (56:23) - What is Agent OS?
• (01:05:00) - Should Agent OS be free?

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Links mentioned in this episode

• Bento
• Transistor’s new customer service page
• Agent OS
• Agent OS on GitHub
• Brian’s YouTube
• Colin and Samir interview by Jay Clouse
• Colin and Samir
• Jay Clouse’s revenue breakdown
• Wes Bos
• Syntax.fm

AI and programming is a hot topic, and it feels like Brian⁩ has found that "founder/audience" fit where his interests align with a wave of audience interest. He and Justin discuss their process for making YouTube videos. Justin also asks: "how do we ensure that our worst tendencies don’t bloom" when we're making products? (Founder retreats and masterminds come up). The big topic: Brian's not loving SaaS (anymore).

Timestamps:

• (00:06) - Brian's YouTube journey
• (04:29) - What Brian's hoping BuilderMethods could be
• (08:26) - What does Brian's YouTube video script look like?
• (10:59) - Why is AI so bad for YouTube editors?
• (16:57) - One thing Descript really nails
• (19:44) - How Steve Jobs ruined his early companies
• (24:25) - Learning about your blindspots
• (28:40) - Seeking connection in mastermind groups or conferences
• (38:00) - How can we make sure we don't follow our worst impulses?
• (42:23) - Zooming in on our battery: what gives us energy?
• (53:00) - Getting alignment between what you love and what makes you money
• (01:00:10) - What might not work for one person, can be a smash hit for another
• (01:03:20) - What is the paid value of content lead companies?
• (01:21:07) - There are business models that are difficult

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Links mentioned in this episode

• Clarity Flow - Brian's SaaS product
• Transistor.fm - Justin's company
• Builder Methods
• The Panel Podcast (@panelpodcast.com) | TikTok
• Descript: Edit Videos & Podcasts Like a Doc | AI Video Editor
• DaVinci Resolve | Blackmagic Design
• Dithering
• Daring Fireball
• Shawn Blanc: Focus Like a Boss
• calf + clover creamery
• Daniel Pink
• Tally
• Profit First - Mike Michalowicz
• Mike Michalowicz – How the author of Profit First stays lean by licensing his ideas
• Apple in China
• Justin’s BlueSky post on Steve Jobs
• The Pull Framework
• Bowling drawing
• Marketing help for programmers, software companies, and SaaS
• Checklist idea for marketing page
• Profit first professionals