In this bonus episode Etienne Stott is joined by Nick Hayes, illustrator, writer and land rights campaigner. Nick was a guest last summer talking about access and his publication The Book of Trespass.

It's a short interview to accompany Episode 25 where all things trespass, rights of way and the Countryside and Rights of Way Act.

This takes the Paddler's Podcast back to its roots - which is access. And there are three great guests with Etienne Stott this week.

Kate Ashbrook is a pioneer and legend. She's currently General Secretary of the Outdoor Spaces Society. Kate has been an activist since the 1970's and brings a wealth of experience to the discussion.

Dr Cath Flitcroft is responsible for managing the British Mountaineering Council's relationship with the Government and other countryside organisations.

And Alison Hallas is the Policy and Advocacy Officer with The Ramblers, the charity that works to protect and expand the places people love to walk.

This week Etienne Stott talks about the great part white water paddling and river running has played in the 85 years of British Canoeing. From the early descents of European rivers in the 1940's and 1950's to the explosion of growth in more recent times.

Three great pioneers join the conversation - Suzy Hornby, Roger Huyton and Michael Coyne. There are some great tales of expeditions from the 1970's and 80's. It's a real to joy to listen.