Join hosts Lauren Young and Monique Whitney as they sit down with Alan Pannier, Chief Strategy Officer at SmithRx, to peel back the layers of the PBM industry. Their discussion explores the critical differences between traditional and pass-through PBM models and how the current system often obscures true costs from employers; shedding light on how innovative models like cost-plus pricing are reshaping the landscape, offering a fairer deal for both patients and independent pharmacies.

Music by cat_herding_diva | Production & Editing by Shannon Wightman-Girard

Key Topics:

1. Pass-Through vs. Traditional PBMs: Breaking down the fundamental differences and why the distinction matters for transparency.
2. How Traditional PBMs Game the System: A look at the tactics legacy PBMs use during the evaluation process to confuse employers and hide profit margins.
3. The Benefits for Employers: Why switching to a pass-through model can lead to significant savings and clearer data for plan sponsors.
4. The Cost-Plus Pharmacy Model: Explaining how this model works and its direct benefits for patient affordability and employer bottom lines.
5. The Role of Independent Pharmacies: How integrating independent pharmacies into benefit plans can simultaneously decrease employer spend and increase pharmacy reimbursement.
6. Market-Driven Reform: Why legislative action isn't enough—the market must actively demand better solutions to ensure PBM reform is effective.

Resources & Links

1. SmithRx: Visit Website
2. Pharmacists United for Truth & Transparency (PUTT): TruthRx.org
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In this episode of The PUTTcast, hosts Lauren Young and Monique Whitney are joined by special guest and pharmacy owner, Fair Jones, to explore key advocacy strategies for independent pharmacies striving for impactful PBM reform. They discuss how to effectively educate state and federal lawmakers, the critical role of follow-up communication, and the power of involving pharmacy patients in the process. Most importantly, they highlight how uniting independent pharmacies across states can strengthen their collective voice to push for enforceable PBM reform.

Special Guest: FairRx founder & Mississippi pharmacy owner, Fair Jones, PharmD

Music by cat_herding_diva | Production & Editing by Shannon Wightman-Girard

Welcome back to part two of our special live crossover episode with PBM on the Rocks and The PUTTcast!

In this conclusion to our live Summit day recording, we dive deeper into the critical issues facing the pharmacy industry today. The discussion picks back up on the front lines of PBM reform, exploring reform’s real-world impact on patients and independent pharmacies, then shifts to a powerful and often-debated topic: the case for unionization in pharmacy. But it's not all serious business. Maurice Shaw (The Dr of Comedy) and Shane Jerominsky (The Accidental Pharmacist) bring their unique perspectives as pharmacists and comedians to point out the comedic moments found in everyday pharmacy life - reminding us that laughter can be a powerful tool for coping with the immense pressures of the pharmacy profession.

Special Guests: Maurice Shaw, PharmD, Shane Jerominsky, RPh, & Greg Reybold, APCI VP of Healthcare Policy & General Counsel

Music by cat_herding_diva & JuliusH | Mixing by Andre Barden | Production & Editing by Shannon Wightman-Girard