Suzanne Ehlers is CEO and Executive Director of USA for UNHCR, the nonprofit organization mobilizing American philanthropy in support of the UN Refugee Agency and millions of people forced to flee their homes.

Suzanne's journey has taken her from growing up in Texas to Cornell University, the Peace Corps in the Central African Republic, and leadership roles at Population Action International and the Malala Fund before assuming her current position.

Along the way, she's developed strong convictions about the power of curiosity, compassion, and human connection — and what it takes to lead organizations tackling some of the world's most difficult challenges.

We begin with how the values she learned growing up helped shape a lifetime of service and a remarkable career in international philanthropy.

Kara Logan Berlin is the founder and CEO of Harvest, a consultancy that helps nonprofits raise more money, develop talent, and expand their impact.

Kara grew up on a farm in eastern Oregon, dreamed of becoming a broadcast journalist, and found her way into fundraising through a series of unexpected turns.

Since then, she's worked with organizations including Harlem RBI, the Robin Hood Foundation, and the Obama Foundation, where she helped develop the fundraising strategy for the Obama Presidential Center.

She's also a TED speaker, an educator, and a passionate advocate for investing in the people who do the work of fundraising.

Today, we'll talk about the unexpected paths that lead us to our life's work, the importance of finding purpose, and what it means to be a force for good.

Darrow Zeidenstein began his career as an anthropologist, studying the cultures and conflicts of the Middle East as a Fulbright Scholar in Syria and a researcher in Morocco. But his search to understand people eventually led him in an unexpected direction: fundraising.

Over the past three decades, Darrow has held senior leadership positions at some of America's leading universities and healthcare institutions, including serving as Vice President for Development and Alumni Relations at Rice University and Senior Vice President and Chief Philanthropy Officer at MD Anderson Cancer Center, where he led the institution's $2.5 billion fundraising campaign and helped grow annual philanthropic revenue from $153 million to more than half a billion dollars.

Today, Darrow is Chief Development Officer of the American Cancer Society, where he's working to restore annual fundraising to more than a billion dollars and tackle cancer on every front, from research and treatment to healthcare access, public policy, and the financial burdens faced by patients.

In this conversation, Darrow reflects on the experiences that shaped him, the art and science of philanthropy, the challenges of leading people through change, and his desire to use the final chapter of his career to make a difference.