Your two favorite but underrated podcasters take a closer look at phones. Consulting the latest data from the Pew Research and other legitimate surveying companies, the two hosts take a look at some of the data on how people use their phones, at what point people get phones and the prevalence of them in American and foreign societies.

Your two favorite podcasters take a look at a psychological condition that has been studied for well over a century but without a great deal of clear answers - our sleep. The hosts first tackle the state of our own sleep habits and what scientists believe is the reason for sleep. Afterwards, Mr. Miller discusses the four main behaviors that shape our sleep and my students attempt to tinker with one or another to judge their own sleep. The two old codgers round things out with a discussion of the idea of "catching up" on sleep. Is it real or even possible? They discuss the medical answer and their own anecdotal observations. It is an interesting conversation that is well worth a listen - even a comment or two on your favorite podcast platform.

The boys are back and today, in a rather muted but still fascinating episode, the gurus discuss the merits of grumpiness. What does it mean to be grumpy? What it is not? How and why is differs from the attitude of younger generations or at least, their aspirations? Personal anecdotes, philosophy and the importance and role of being are all discussed about how people should approach life, what they should expect of it and what should they not want...in their humble opinion.