In this midweek episode Chad gets Mary Lou to watch some clips from Pam Bondi's insane House Judiciary hearing in which she answers zero questions about the botched release of the Epstein files.

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This week on The Necessary Conversation, we break down one of the most alarming news cycles yet—Trump posting racist imagery of the Obamas, the DOJ quietly deleting Epstein files that mention Trump, open calls to nationalize elections, and mounting evidence of authoritarian consolidation.

We also talk Super Bowl halftime, Olympic boos, billionaire media takeovers, and whether Trump has ever read the Bible.

🚨 Trump’s Racist Post About the Obamas

Donald Trump shared an overtly racist image depicting Barack and Michelle Obama as apes—then refused to apologize. After public backlash, the post was deleted, and the White House falsely blamed a staffer before Trump admitted he personally approved it.

We ask:

• Is Trump racist?
• Why did Karoline Leavitt lie?
• Why won’t Trump apologize?

📂 DOJ Deleting Epstein Files

After releasing millions of Epstein documents, the DOJ has quietly removed hundreds of files containing Trump’s name from public databases—without explanation.

We break down:

• The disappearing documents
• The timeline of deletions
• Why Trump’s name keeps vanishing from the records

🗳️ Trump Wants to End States’ Voting Rights

Trump openly said Republicans should “take over the voting” and nationalize elections so the GOP never loses again—prompting condemnation from all Democratic governors and concern from Republicans.

We ask:

• Should elections be controlled federally?
• Should one party control voting?
• Is this the end of constitutional elections?

🕵️ Tulsi Gabbard Whistleblower Bombshell

A whistleblower alleges Trump’s Director of National Intelligence hid intelligence involving a foreign operative and someone close to Trump—locking it in a safe and keeping it from Congress.

Why was this information buried?
Who was involved?
Why don’t we know yet?

🏟️ Olympics: JD Vance Booed, Athletes Insulted

JD Vance was loudly booed at the Winter Olympics while U.S. athletes were cheered—then Trump called an American Olympian a “loser.”

We ask:

• Why was Vance booed internationally?
• Should a president ever insult U.S. athletes?

📖 Trump Admits He’s Never Read the Bible

At the National Prayer Breakfast, Trump laughed about likely never having read the Bible—despite selling Trump-branded Bibles and calling it his “favorite book.”

Does it matter?
Is this hypocrisy—or something worse?

📰 Bezos Guts The Washington Post

Jeff Bezos fired hundreds of journalists, including foreign correspondents—leaving some stranded in war zones. Critics say it’s about control, not profits.

Is this the billionaire takeover of the press?

🧘 Simmer Down

What will your sign from the other side be?

This episode covers racism, censorship, election interference, billionaires controlling media, Olympic backlash, religious hypocrisy, and democratic collapse—and asks the question we can’t avoid anymore:

Is this what authoritarianism looks like in real time?

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In this midweek edition of The Necessary Conversation Chad forces Mary Lou to read from the most recent batch of the Epstein Files including allegations against Trump, Musk and Lutnick.

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On today’s episode of The Necessary Conversation, we unpack one of the most explosive news cycles yet—newly released Epstein materials that repeatedly reference Donald Trump, journalists being arrested while covering protests, the FBI seizing 2020 election ballots, and Trump suing the United States government for billions of dollars. And Bob shows off his new MAGA cowboy hat given to him by Hasan Piker.

This episode gets heavy, fast.

🔥 Trump & the Epstein Files

This week the DOJ released a massive new batch of Epstein-related materials—while confirming that millions more files will never be released. The documents include text, images, and videos in which Donald Trump is referenced thousands of times, along with many other powerful figures.

We discuss:

• Allegations contained in the newly released materials
• Why certain documents briefly disappeared before being restored
• Why victim names were published unredacted while alleged co-conspirators were not
• Why the DOJ says this release ends its legal obligation

We also ask the hardest question yet: If this isn’t enough, what would be?

📰 Journalists Arrested for Doing Their Jobs

Trump’s crackdown on the press escalated as journalists Don Lemon and Georgia Fort were arrested while covering a controversial protest at a church in Minnesota.

We break down:

• What they were charged with
• Why press freedom groups are alarmed
• What this means for journalism under any future administration

🗳️ FBI Seizes 2020 Ballots in Georgia

Federal agents removed physical ballots, voting machine records, and tabulator data from Fulton County—ground zero of Trump’s 2020 election pressure campaign.

We discuss:

• Why the FBI took the ballots
• Why there’s concern over chain of custody
• What this could mean for future elections

🌌 Simmer Down

We take a breather with a lighter question:
Who is your favorite Star Wars character?

🎬 Melania’s Movie Flops

Melania Trump’s documentary Melania, directed by Brett Ratner, opened nationwide—and collapsed at the box office.

We look at:

• Why the film bombed
• Where MAGA support was
• What this means for Ratner’s attempted comeback

💰 Trump Sues America

Trump, his sons, and the Trump Organization are suing the IRS and Treasury for $10 billion, accusing them of failing to protect his tax information.

Yes—Trump is suing agencies he currently controls.

We ask:

• How is this not a conflict of interest?
• Should a president be able to extract taxpayer money this way?
• Has anything like this ever happened before? (No.)

💬 We ask throughout the episode:

• Do these Epstein disclosures change anything?
• Is a free press optional in a democracy?
• Should any president be allowed to seize ballots?
• How far can executive power go before it breaks the system?

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In this midweek episode Chad and Mary Lou play clips for one another from different sides of the aisle regarding the murder of Alex Pretti in Minnesota.

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This week on The Necessary Conversation, we cover one of the most disturbing weeks yet in Trump’s second term — from ICE killing an American citizen in broad daylight, to toddlers being detained and transported across state lines, to Trump humiliating the U.S. on the world stage while openly mocking climate science.

🚨 ICE This Week: Children Detained, American Citizen Killed

ICE escalated its campaign of terror with actions that shocked the nation:

• ICE used a 5-year-old child as bait, coercing him to knock on his own front door so agents could detain his father. Both were sent to a detention camp in Texas despite the family entering the U.S. legally and having an active asylum case.
• ICE detained a 2-year-old girl, ignored a judge’s order for her immediate release, and still transported her to Texas.
• ICE agents killed U.S. citizen Alex Jeffrey Pretti, an ICU nurse at the Minneapolis VA, after he tried to protect a woman they had shoved to the ground.
  • Pretti was unarmed when shot
  • Had no criminal record
  • Was legally carrying a firearm before being disarmed
  • Was shot 10–12 times despite posing no threat

Kristi Noem publicly lied about the incident. ICE is withholding the name of the agent, denied state investigators access to the scene, and reportedly detained witnesses.

🌍 Trump at Davos: Greenland, Grift, and Global Fallout

At the World Economic Forum:

• Trump rambled about American dominance and his obsession with taking Greenland
• Introduced his so-called “Board of Peace”, a pay-to-play alliance requiring countries to give Trump $1 billion and never oppose him
• No European nations joined — while countries that have previously bribed Trump were invited

In response, China and several European countries began selling off U.S. Treasury bonds, risking long-term damage to the dollar.

🏛️ Trump’s Racism on Full Display

This week Trump:

• Ordered exhibits about slavery removed from the President’s House Site in Philadelphia — erasing the history of the enslaved people owned by George and Martha Washington
• Failed to acknowledge Martin Luther King Jr. Day until after intense backlash, finally posting after the day had already passed

🧊 Climate Disaster & Trump’s Climate Denial

One of the largest winter storms in U.S. history slammed the country:

• Up to 2 feet of snow
• Over 200 million people impacted
• Thousands of flights canceled
• More than 135,000 without power
• 15+ states declared emergencies

Experts explain how climate change increases storm severity — yet Trump responded by mocking global warming on social media, once again proving he doesn’t understand basic climate science.

🧘 Simmer Down

We take a pause to look at Haley’s wedding photos from 22 years ago, offering a rare moment of calm in an otherwise heavy episode.

💬 We ask:

• Should ICE be allowed to detain children and kill citizens without accountability?
• Why is Trump erasing American history?
• What happens when a president openly denies climate reality?
• How much damage can one administration do in a single week?

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The Lib Sibs are back to discuss their appearance on Hasan Piker's show today as well as some of the current political issues form the week AND the recent UFO documentary Age of Disclosure. Enjoy a casual conversation in the middle of the week as we prepare for this Sunday's full show.

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⚠️ NOTE: Haley is not on this episode — she’s out galavanting — but Mary Lou brings in her MAGA friend Jules as a special guest, making for one of the most intense and revealing conversations we’ve had yet.

This week on The Necessary Conversation, we break down a terrifying escalation of federal power, shocking allegations tied to the Epstein network, and Trump openly flirting with the end of elections and international war — all while ICE violence spirals out of control inside the United States.

🚨 ICE Violence & the Insurrection Act

As peaceful protests erupt in Minnesota over ICE abuses, Trump threatens to invoke the Insurrection Act, potentially allowing the U.S. military to be used against American civilians.

This week alone:

• ICE shot a Venezuelan man in the leg
• Tear-gassed a 6-month-old baby, causing the child to stop breathing
• Blinded a U.S. citizen by shooting him in the eye at point-blank range
• Arrested hundreds of U.S. citizens without cause
• A 55-year-old Cuban immigrant, Geraldo Lunas Campos, was choked to death in ICE custody, ruled a homicide by the medical examiner

We also reveal:

• ICE training has been slashed from 6 months to 6 weeks
• Hiring standards have collapsed
• An ICE officer recently pleaded guilty to raping a detainee
• 73.6% of ICE detainees have no criminal record
• DHS is using Nazi-adjacent slogans and white-nationalist imagery in recruitment content

Despite a federal judge ordering ICE to stop arresting protesters and using force, the order is being ignored, and Trump is now preparing to deploy 1,500 U.S. Army troops into Minneapolis.

🔥 Epstein Network Allegations: Sascha Riley Audio

Viral, unverified audio released this week contains explosive allegations from Iraq War veteran Sascha Riley, who claims:

• Trump, Lindsey Graham, Jim Jordan, and Clarence Thomas participated in child trafficking
• Children were raped, tortured, and murdered within the Epstein network
• Trump was physically injured during abuse

Meanwhile, the DOJ is now over a month past the deadline to release the Epstein files — and late Friday filed a motion to block Congress from enforcing release.

We ask:

• Why is the DOJ protecting the Epstein files?
• What happens if these allegations are ignored?
• Who benefits from silence?

💰 Trump’s Offshore Oil Money

Trump sold $500 million worth of seized Venezuelan oil — and instead of placing the money in the U.S. Treasury, parked it in a Qatari bank account.

Yes, the same Qatar that just gave him a $400 million jet.

Why offshore?
Who controls the money?
Where is the oversight?

🗳️ “We Shouldn’t Even Have an Election”

In a Reuters interview, Trump said:

The White House says he was “joking.”

We ask the obvious question:
What’s the joke?

❄️ Greenland: Tariffs, Threats & NATO Fallout

Trump escalates his Greenland obsession by:

• Threatening 10–25% tariffs on NATO allies
• Pushing for the “complete and total purchase” of Greenland
• Risking a fracture of NATO

Only 4% of Americans support this plan — yet Trump presses on.

🤖 GROK Goes to War

Pete Hegseth announces Elon Musk’s AI Grok will be integrated into classified Pentagon systems, despite Grok’s history of:

• Deepfake sexual images

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