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Gen Kobayashi is UK group chief strategy officer at M+C Saatchi. Gen also knows the pain of bereavement first-hand, as he sadly lost his sister-in-law to cancer.

Gen is a key industry voice on grief and bereavement. In this beautiful conversation he shares the profound impact of loss on his family. Gen explores what true support looks like, and shares why grief made him take a proper break from work for the first time ever.

Both Gen and Louise have experienced bereavement over the past few years, making this a heartfelt and empathetic conversation. They discuss how best to support team members who are grieving, sharing practical tips as well as emotional insights.

Need some grief support after listening to this? Call the NABS Advice Line for a listening ear.

Key takeaways:

• Take time to understand what the bereaved person needs
• Replace platitudes with active listening and genuine empathy
• Look after yourself too when you’re supporting someone going through grief.

Resources

NABS Managers’ Mindsets

NABS grief page

Caroline Parkes’ post about grief

Gen’s piece for Campaign about grief

NABS Advice Line

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How to manage your team's mental wellness - and your own, with Sue Todd, CEO, NABS

Sue Todd is the CEO of NABS, the industry's charity, helping everybody to move forward. She's not just in charge of adland's mental wellness; she's also responsible for the mental wellness of the NABS team. To mark Mental Health Awareness Week (12-18 May), Sue comes onto the NABS podcast for the first time to talk about community, meditation, the menopause and more.

Key takeaways:

• Employers have to do as much as they can to support those going through perimenopause, especially as the support isn't always out there in the wider world
• Meditation doesn't have to be woo-woo, there's a way to do it that helps to separate you from your thoughts
• Community is vital for us - there's real value in learning together and from each other, for example in NABS' Explore and Connect sessions

Resources mentioned in this episode:

WACL

Mental Health Awareness Week

NABS Explore and Connect sessions

Walk and Talk for NABS

MEFA

All In Census

IPA People First Promise

NABS Advice Line

NABS Managers’ Mindsets

NABS All Ears community consultation

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If you work in advertising, marketing or media, NABS is here for you. Through good times and bad, we’re here to get you through all of life’s issues, in and out of work.

Want to build a network? We’ll connect you to the industry.

Aiming to be your best work self? We’ll develop your skills.

Need a listening ear, a friendly face, a confidential chat, some money advice or some help with your mental health? We’re here for that too.

NABS is your charity, generously funded by the industry. Thanks for having our back; we’ve definitely got yours.

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How to make a big impact without burnout, with Bianca Best

Bianca Best knows about burnout - she experienced it, and has now written a book on how to avoid burnout while making an impact at work. Bianca is an adland powerhouse, a solo mum of four (five if you include her dog), a coach and a speaker, so she certainly knows about fulfilling your potential without damaging your mental wellness. Having got to the burnout point some years ago, Bianca knows how to bring yourself back from the edge of burnout, and how to avoid it in future.

Key takeaways:

• There are four elements to burnout: physical, mental, emotional and spiritual
• The first step in overcoming burnout is to acknowledge any shame you have around it
• Ambition is a good thing that can exist alongside your mental wellness

Resources mentioned in this episode

Bianca's website

Big Impact Without Burnout

NABS Advice Line

NABS Managers' Mindsets

NABS on burnout in Marketing Week: here and here

NABS on burnout in Campaign

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If you work in advertising, marketing or media, NABS is here for you. Through good times and bad, we’re here to get you through all of life’s issues, in and out of work.

Want to build a network? We’ll connect you to the industry.

Aiming to be your best work self? We’ll develop your skills.

Need a listening ear, a friendly face, a confidential chat, some money advice or some help with your mental health? We’re here for that too.

NABS is your charity, generously funded by the industry. Thanks for having our back; we’ve definitely got yours.

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