What kind of leader do you need to become when knowledge and experience alone are no longer enough?

In this episode of the Mark Divine Show, I sit down with Amy Elizabeth Fox to explore the deeper inner development leaders need to navigate a world of accelerating change, uncertainty, and complexity.

We unpack the difference between horizontal and vertical development, and why real transformation goes beyond acquiring new skills to changing how you see yourself, others, and the world. Amy also shares how unresolved experiences can quietly shape leadership behavior, especially when stress pushes people toward defensiveness, rigidity, withdrawal, or reactivity.

We explore why slowing down and creating space for stillness can strengthen clarity, creativity, connection, and decision-making. We also discuss spiritual intelligence, visualization, the importance of developing deeper relationships at work, and the shift from VUCA to a BANI world.

In this episode:
• Horizontal vs. vertical leadership development
• How unresolved trauma can influence leadership
• Why slowing down can improve performance
• Stillness, reflection, and emotional regulation
• Building stronger relationships and trust at work
• Spiritual intelligence in leadership
• Using visualization to create new possibilities
• Leading in a brittle, anxious, nonlinear, and incomprehensible world
• The inner capacities leaders will need in the age of AI

Learn more about Amy Elizabeth Fox:
amyelizabethfox.com

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leadinginchaosbook.com

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What separates elite performers when talent and skill are no longer enough?

In this episode of the Mark Divine Show, I sit down with high-performance coach Jason Stacy to explore what actually happens when the pressure is on and why the work you do before those moments determines who shows up inside them.

Jason has spent decades working with elite performers, including world No. 1 tennis player and multiple Grand Slam champion Aryna Sabalenka. We unpack lessons from the highest levels of competition and explore how they apply far beyond sports.

We get into the difference between confidence and self-belief, Jason’s three E’s of performance: energy, emotions, and environment, and why aligning your actions with your values creates an internal foundation you can rely on when the stakes rise.

We also discuss regulating your physical and emotional state, using micro-recovery periods throughout the day, shifting from a fighter mentality to a warrior mindset, and using the body and breath to regain focus, clarity, and control.

In this episode:

• Why pressure reveals what you’ve already built
• Confidence vs. genuine self-belief
• Jason’s three E’s: energy, emotions, and environment
• How elite performers regulate themselves under pressure
• Why micro-recovery can improve sustained performance
• Using the body and breath to influence your mental state
• How your environment shapes performance
• The shift from fighter to warrior
• Why great coaching helps people discover their own answers
• Building an internal code that holds when the stakes are high

Learn more about Jason Stacy and The Pressure Code:
thepressurecode.com

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If the worst day of your life showed up right now, who would show up in your body? Would it be someone who already knows what they stand for, or someone trying to figure it all out under the worst possible conditions?

In this epic finale of the Sheepdog Strong series, retired Navy SEAL Commander Mark Divine brings the entire series together to reveal the complete, learnable architecture of character and capability. Whether you are new to the series or have followed every episode, Mark lays out all 19 integrated principles in one sitting: the 9 foundational character attributes—including ethos, courage, and resilience—and the 10 tactical skills—such as command presence, perspective holding, and self-regulation—that turn your potential into reliable action when the pressure is highest.

Discover how to run an honest self-assessment of your own gaps, commit to the powerful Sheepdog Oath, and learn how to bridge the gap between theoretical knowledge and real-world, pressure-tested capacity.

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