Mark hands his show over to Morgan May Treuil and Leslie Johnston for an honest conversation about Christian dating, the marriage expectations nobody warned them about, the church clichés they'd retire, and what men and women wish the other side would actually say out loud.

Paul didn't want the church to be like children — tossed around by every new idea, podcast, or trending pastor. In this message from Ephesians 4, we explore what real spiritual maturity looks like: theologically grounded, relationally rooted, and built on the two legs you can't stand without truth and love.

What does it actually mean to grow up in your faith — and why does it matter? In this message from Ephesians 4, we unpack why spiritual maturity isn't optional, how to spot deception before it unravels your beliefs, and why speaking truth without love just makes you a bully. If you've ever felt your faith getting blown around by the latest book, podcast, or Reddit thread, this one's for you.