Billy Corgan welcomes legendary manager Freddy DeMann, the architect behind Michael Jackson and Madonna’s rise to global dominance. He breaks down the exact moment he knew Michael was different, the fight to pair him with Quincy Jones, and how one bold call turned “Shake Your Body” into a global smash. He reveals how MTV was forced to finally play newly transcendent artists, what it took to push past label politics, the high-stakes power struggle with Joe Jackson, shaping Madonna’s rise and working alongside Billy Idol.

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Billy Corgan welcomes guitar virtuoso Jeff "Skunk" Baxter for a journey through music history starting with the guitar he didn't even want. Baxter shares incredible stories from his early days in Mexico City, from writing fan letters to his heroes The Ventures to eventually producing their records. He reflects on playing alongside Jimi Hendrix and what made the legends truly magnetic: joy, not just skill. Along the way, he breaks down the philosophy behind his signature sound and how his work with Steely Dan helped redefine studio perfection.

But there's tension in the story too, walking away from Steely Dan at their peak and reinventing the Doobie Brothers. Baxter also reveals his second act as a defense consultant, drawing surprising parallels between jazz improvisation and military strategy, while he and Corgan dig into AI's growing threat to the music business and the irreplaceable humanity at the heart of a live performance.

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Billy Corgan sits down with Disturbed frontman David Draiman for an unfiltered conversation about music, identity, and what happens when an artist steps into the political firestorm. What starts as a reflection on a surreal Black Sabbath/Ozzy tribute quickly turns into something deeper. Draiman shares how the October 7 attacks reshaped his worldview, why he felt compelled to go public, and the personal toll it’s taken, from media narratives to fractured relationships. Corgan pushes on the bigger questions: Where’s the line between free speech and responsibility? Should artists use their platform for politics or stay out of it? This is a tense but thoughtful exchange about conviction, consequence, and the role of artists in a divided world.

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