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  • EP 174: Running Out of Wood? Russ Taylor on the Market Nobody Saw Coming
    2026/07/09

    Russ Taylor of Russ Taylor Global returns to The Lumber Word for a deep dive into one of the most fascinating lumber markets in years. The crew discusses shrinking North American production, tightening inventories, Canadian export trends, Southern Pine pricing, mill profitability, tariffs, transportation, and why supply—not demand—continues to drive prices. With production capacity permanently removed across North America and limited ability to quickly restart mills, the panel explores whether higher prices are here to stay into late 2026. If you trade, manufacture, distribute, or simply follow the lumber industry, this episode delivers market intelligence you won't want to miss.

    Timeline

    00:00 – Soccer banter before shifting into lumber markets.

    02:00 – Current SPF and Southern Pine market conditions and regional pricing.

    08:00 – Russ Taylor reviews Canadian production and export data.

    15:00 – Mill profitability, duties, tariffs and North American cost structures.

    21:00 – Why supply constraints are outweighing demand.

    28:00 – Southern Pine production, logistics and trucking challenges.

    34:00 – Wood chip markets, pulp demand and byproduct economics.

    35:30 – 30-, 60- and 90-day market outlook and pricing expectations.

    41:00 – Canadian shipments, tariff timing and closing market outlook.

    Guest: Russ Taylor

    WWW.russtaylorglobal.com

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    48 分
  • EP 175: Lumber Market Crossroads: Is $700 2x4 SPF Coming? Pine, Western Species & the Next Big Trade
    2026/07/17

    The lumber market may feel quiet—but beneath the surface, major shifts are taking place. In Episode #175 of The Lumber Word, Ashley Boeckholt, Greg Riley, Matt Beymer, and Charles DeLaTorre discuss why the current market could be setting up for its next significant move. The crew breaks down Canadian SPF, Southern Yellow Pine, Western species, and why inventory positioning may matter more than ever heading into late summer. Matt shares insights from the Inland Lumber Producers Conference, highlighting how market conditions have become highly regionalized across North America. The conversation also pays tribute to three respected industry leaders whose retirements mark the end of an era in the lumber business. Other topics include: • Is SPF 2x4 the cheapest value in North American lumber today? • Could Western Spruce reach $700 by Labor Day? • Southern Yellow Pine supply, production cuts, and inventory trends • Why mills still aren't chasing production despite stronger pricing • Forward pricing opportunities and why buyers remain cautious • Canadian shipment trends and what they signal for the second half of 2026 • The importance of mentorship, relationships, and reputation in the lumber industry Whether you're a lumber trader, sawmill executive, wholesaler, retailer, builder, or simply follow North American wood products markets, this episode delivers practical market intelligence and industry insight you won't want to miss.

    Simple Timeline

    00:00 – Episode 175 begins and current lumber market overview

    02:00 – Why SPF 2x4 appears undervalued compared to other lumber products

    06:00 – Customer visits, building relationships, and selling opportunities

    07:00 – Matt's recap of the Inland Lumber Producers Conference

    09:45 – Honoring retiring lumber industry leaders

    17:30 – Mentorship and why relationships define long-term success in lumber

    18:00 – Southern Yellow Pine market update with Charles

    20:00 – Western species, Douglas Fir, Hem-Fir, and current trading conditions

    23:00 – Distribution inventories, buying strategies, and market positioning

    25:45 – Forward pricing opportunities and why buyers remain hesitant

    27:00 – Dimension lumber discussion: 2x10s, 2x12s, and seasonal production trends

    33:00 – Canadian production, stud mills, and profitability

    37:00 – Pulp markets, fiber supply, and residual economics

    39:30 – Canadian shipment data, inventory outlook, and what's next for the lumber market.

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    47 分
  • EP 176: Lumber Market Crossroads: Supply Cuts, Futures Strategy & Why Demand Is Better Than You Think
    2026/07/24

    The lumber market may feel quiet, but beneath the surface, major forces are shaping the second half of 2026. In Episode 176 of The Lumber Word, Ashley, Gregg, Matt, and Charles break down slowing summer activity, surprising housing data, Canadian production cuts, Southern Yellow Pine trends, and why lumber futures remain one of the industry's most underused risk management tools. Plus, the crew dives deep into species spreads, pricing opportunities, and what separates great lumber traders from everyone else.

    Timeline

    00:00 – Summer slowdown or just a seasonal pause?

    05:30 – Housing starts surprise the market: supply vs. demand

    13:00 – Canadian curtailments, fiber shortages & wildfire impacts

    17:00 – Southern Yellow Pine futures and managing price risk

    25:00 – Why the panel is hedging lumber futures today

    31:00 – Species spreads: SPF vs. Doug Fir, Hem-Fir & Southern Pine

    35:00 – Why traders love the 'in the weeds' market discussion

    39:00 – How great lumber traders are developed—and why training still matters

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    57 分
  • EP 177: NAWLA Opens the Doors, Southern Pine Opportunity & Lumber Market Outlook
    2026/07/30

    This week on The Lumber Word, Ashley Boeckholt, Gregg Matt, and Charles welcome Kyle Little, COO of Sherwood Lumber and Immediate Past Chair of NAWLA, for an in-depth conversation on one of the biggest changes in the lumber industry's premier trade organization. Kyle explains how NAWLA is opening its 2026 Traders Market in Anaheim, CA, November 4-6, to the broader wood products industry, making networking, education, and collaboration more accessible than ever before. The discussion also explores the association's long-term vision and why these changes could reshape industry relationships for years to come. The crew then shifts to today's lumber market—covering lean inventories, Southern Yellow Pine pricing, Western species, Canfor's Fox Creek closure, multifamily housing demand, futures positioning, and the trading opportunities emerging from historically wide species spreads. Whether you're a trader, sawmill, distributor, dealer, builder, or housing professional, this episode delivers practical market intelligence you can use immediately.

    Episode Timeline

    00:00 – Welcome Kyle Little & NAWLA updates

    03:00 – Why NAWLA is opening the Traders Market

    12:00 – Wood Basics, leadership development & networking

    19:15 – Current lumber market conditions

    22:45 – Lean inventories and housing demand

    25:00 – Southern Yellow Pine outlook

    28:00 – Western species, production & wildfire discussion

    33:30 – Doug Fir vs. SPF vs. Southern Pine trading opportunities

    37:45 – Bullish and bearish market picks

    43:00 – Best buying opportunities in today's lumber market

    46:45 – Interest rates, housing & what comes next

    51:00 – Sherwood Lumber updates and final thoughts

    Guest

    Kyle Little, COO, Sherwood Lumber

    KLittle@sherwoodlumber.com

    NAWLA: North American Wholesale Lumber Association

    2026 Traders Market Information

    If you want to meet with the top companies and individuals in the industry, this is a must-attend!

    https://nawla.org/events/tradersmarket

    Matt Bruno: Executive Director, NAWLA

    MBruno@nawla.org

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    Show Contacts:

    Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com

    Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com

    Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com

    Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com

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    52 分
  • EP 178: Is It Time to Buy? | Sig Thoma on Housing, OSB, Futures & the Next Market Move
    2026/08/14

    The lumber market just dropped roughly $100 in three weeks - but is the selloff creating the next big buying opportunity?

    In Episode #178 of The Lumber Word, industry veteran Sig Thoma joins Ashley, Gregg, and Matt for a wide-ranging conversation about what's really happening beneath the surface of the lumber market.

    Inventories are getting lean, cash prices are falling well below published levels, and CME lumber futures are carrying a major discount. Sig brings a broader perspective to the conversation, including a fascinating look at a massive lumber buyer whose sheds were nearly empty - a sign that the industry may be running much leaner than many realize.

    The crew dives into Southern Yellow Pine, Canadian SPF, Western species, OSB, European lumber, housing and mill profitability. Sig explains why the OSB market has effectively become two different markets, with dramatically different pricing between the U.S. South and West.

    Then the conversation gets deeper.

    Why aren't more sawmills using CME lumber futures to lock in profitable sales? Could increased futures participation improve price discovery across the entire lumber industry? And could a transparent U.S.-based futures market eventually become part of the argument surrounding Canadian anti-dumping duties and how lumber's true market price is established?

    Sig also breaks down the housing problem: mortgage applications have fallen sharply from their June highs, new-home sales remain well below historical peaks, and affordability continues to constrain demand.

    The episode finishes with a fascinating discussion about pulp capacity and something most lumber buyers rarely think about: sawmill byproducts. Chips, sawdust, shavings and residual values can materially change sawmill economics - and losing pulp outlets could ultimately influence lumber production itself.

    Is this simply an August lumber correction - or is the market setting up for its next major trade?

    Timeline

    00:00 - Lumber drops roughly $100 & the CME discount

    06:00 - Cash lumber, mill pricing & where buyers are hiding

    10:40 - Sig's incredible look at extremely lean inventories

    14:25 - Southern Yellow Pine economics & Canadian SPF losses

    15:00 - Sig breaks down the strange OSB market

    17:20 - European lumber arrivals & Eastern SPF

    20:00 - Western species vs. CME futures

    21:00 - Why aren't more sawmills using lumber futures?

    25:00 - Forward pricing opportunities & multifamily

    27:00 - Where could the lumber market finally bottom?

    29:20 - What happens if you actually take CME delivery?

    31:00 - Sig on futures culture & changing the lumber industry

    32:20 - Housing, mortgage applications & affordability

    35:50 - Southern sawmills, pulp capacity & mill economics

    39:45 - Canadian lumber duties delayed

    41:00 - Could CME pricing challenge the anti-dumping argument?

    44:00 - Manufacturing, tariffs & deglobalization

    46:30 - A wild real-world CME delivery story

    48:15 - Sig closes with a classic story & market warning

    Keywords

    Lumber Market, Lumber Prices, Sig Thoma, CME Lumber Futures, Lumber Futures, SPF Lumber, Canadian Lumber, Southern Yellow Pine, OSB Prices, Housing Market, Mortgage Rates, Sawmills, Lumber Duties, Anti-Dumping Duties, Softwood Lumber, Lumber Trading, Building Materials, Wood Products, Lumber Industry, The Lumber Word Podcast

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    50 分
  • Episode 179: Don’t Sell the Bottom
    2026/08/21

    The lumber market has cooled off — but has it found a bottom?

    This week on The Lumber Word, Ashley, Gregg, Matt and Charles break down a market where you can seemingly “sell as much lumber as you want and not make any money.” Eastern SPF has taken a serious haircut, studs are showing signs of life, Southern Pine has firmed from its lows, and low inventories throughout the supply chain could make the next move happen fast.

    The crew digs into SPF, Southern Pine, Doug Fir, studs, 2x4 and 2x6, where real business is trading, and whether the recent bounce is the beginning of something — or just another short-lived rally in a seasonally softer second half.

    They also tackle the bigger picture: ugly housing data, mortgage rates, Treasury debt buybacks, CME futures versus cash, forward Q4 business, and what potentially opening more federal land to logging could mean for western sawmills and timber owners.

    But the real conversation is about risk.

    Why are people selling forward business below acceptable risk? When should you walk away from an order? Is the market already too short? And after a strong first half of 2026, should traders be shrinking inventory and waiting for the next real opportunity?

    Matt sums it up: don’t buy or sell in a panic. Charles warns against the market’s “false sense of security.” And the crew debates whether every rally between now and year-end may be an opportunity to sell.

    Less inventory. Less risk. Better decisions. And don’t sell the bottom.

    Another unfiltered hour of lumber markets, trading strategy, housing, futures and plenty of Lumber Word banter.

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    Show Contacts:

    Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com

    Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com

    Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com

    Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com

    er market has cooled off — but has it found a bottom?

    This week on The Lumber Word, Ashley, Gregg, Matt and Charles break down a market where you can seemingly “sell as much lumber as you want and not make any money.” Eastern SPF has taken a serious haircut, studs are showing signs of life, Southern Pine has firmed from its lows, and low inventories throughout the supply chain could make the next move happen fast.

    The crew digs into SPF, Southern Pine, Doug Fir, studs, 2x4 and 2x6, where real business is trading, and whether the recent bounce is the beginning of something — or just another short-lived rally in a seasonally softer second half.

    They also tackle the bigger picture: ugly housing data, mortgage rates, Treasury debt buybacks, CME futures versus cash, forward Q4 business, and what potentially opening more federal land to logging could mean for western sawmills and timber owners.

    But the real conversation is about risk.

    Why are people selling forward business below acceptable risk? When should you walk away from an order? Is the market already too short? And after a strong first half of 2026, should traders be shrinking inventory and waiting for the next real opportunity?

    Matt sums it up: don’t buy or sell in a panic. Charles warns against the market’s “false sense of security.” And the crew debates whether every rally between now and year-end may be an opportunity to sell.

    Less inventory. Less risk. Better decisions. And don’t sell the bottom.

    Another unfiltered hour of lumber markets, trading strategy, housing, futures and plenty of Lumber Word banter.

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    Product Marketing Manager

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    Show Contacts:

    Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com

    Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com

    Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com

    Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com

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    58 分
  • EP 173: The Lumber Market Just Changed—and Most People Haven't Noticed
    2026/06/25
    Episode Summary

    Episode #173 welcomes returning guest Mike Wisnefski of Westline Capital for an in-depth discussion on the evolving lumber market. The panel explores lessons from the Southern Pine Conference, why the CME Southern Pine futures contract could benefit from monthly expirations, and how better participation could improve liquidity. Mike shares how private equity ownership is changing sawmill decision-making, while the group examines why Western and Eastern lumber markets have tightened despite mixed economic headlines. The conversation also dives into inventory strategy, options pricing, reload capacity, trucking, and the growing importance of disciplined risk management. Finally, the hosts debate housing policy, builder demand, infrastructure, and why regional economics continue to drive long-term lumber consumption. This episode offers practical insights for wholesalers, retailers, mills, traders, and anyone following the North American lumber industry.

    Timeline
    • 00:00 – Introductions, Chicago sports, and welcome back to Mike Wisnefski.
    • 02:00 – Southern Pine Conference recap—networking, collaboration, and supply chain partnerships.
    • 04:00 – Private equity ownership of sawmills and changing mill economics.
    • 05:30 – Future of the CME Southern Pine futures contract and ideas for improving liquidity.
    • 10:00 – Cash settlement, delivery points, and regional pricing challenges.
    • 15:00 – Western lumber market strength, improving order files, and species updates.
    • 18:00 – Dimension shortages, 2x10 pricing, and shifting production patterns.
    • 20:00 – Eastern market tightness, European imports, and shrinking inventories.
    • 25:00 – Housing legislation, permitting challenges, and rebuilding constraints.
    • 31:30 – Regional migration, affordability, and long-term housing demand.
    • 34:00 – Inventory strategy, reload economics, and why distributors are regaining value.
    • 40:00 – Options pricing, risk management, and disciplined trading strategies.
    • 44:00 – Closing thoughts on market structure, hedging opportunities, and the second-half outlook.

    Guest: Mike Wisnefski from Westline Capital Strategies Inc.

    MikeW@westlinecapital.com

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    Show Contacts:

    Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com

    Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com

    Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com

    Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com

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    53 分
  • EP 172: Lumber Market Rally: Inventory Panic, Freight Crunch & Why Prices Could Keep Climbing
    2026/06/18

    Matt Layman returns to The Lumber Word for an in-depth discussion on one of the hottest topics in the lumber industry: the summer lumber rally. With inventories running lean, freight markets tightening, and mills extending order files, the crew explores whether lumber prices still have room to run. The conversation begins with a recap of the Southern Pine hedging seminar hosted by StoneX and Westline Capital, where attendees discussed the future of lumber risk management, liquidity challenges, and why more companies need to gain hands-on experience using futures markets. The group then shifts to the cash lumber market, breaking down strength in SPF, Southern Yellow Pine, Hem-Fir, and Douglas Fir. Matt shares what he's seeing in the Pacific Northwest, while Gregg and Ashley discuss supply constraints, delayed shipments, trucking shortages, and why buying lumber is becoming harder than selling it. They also analyze the latest housing starts data, debate whether demand is stronger than many expect, and discuss how lean inventories throughout the supply chain continue to support higher prices despite widespread economic pessimism. Plus: freight disruptions, rail delays, inventory management, futures trading lessons, Elon Musk, SpaceX, and Ashley's outlook for where lumber prices may be headed through July and beyond. If you're a lumber dealer, wholesaler, manufacturer, builder, trader, or investor looking to stay ahead of the market, this episode is packed with actionable insights.

    Topics Covered

    Lumber Market Outlook

    SPF Lumber Prices

    Southern Yellow Pine (SYP)

    Hem-Fir & Douglas Fir Markets

    Lumber Futures & Hedging

    Freight & Trucking Costs

    Rail Service Challenges

    Housing Starts Analysis

    Inventory Management

    Lumber Industry Economics

    SpaceX & Market Psychology

    Summer 2026 Lumber Rally

    Timeline

    00:00 – Matt Layman Returns to The Lumber Word

    03:00 – Southern Pine Futures, Hedging & Market Participation

    07:00 – Risk Management: How Lumber Companies Should Think About Futures

    15:00 – Trading Lessons: Winning, Losing & Market Discipline

    16:00 – SPF, Hem-Fir & Douglas Fir Break Higher

    21:00 – Is Southern Yellow Pine Finally Joining the Rally?

    27:00 – Housing Starts: What the Headlines Missed

    30:00 – Elon Musk, SpaceX & Economic Optimism

    34:00 – Ashley's Bullish Case for Lumber

    38:00 – Freight Bottlenecks, Rail Delays & Inventory Shortages

    44:00+ – Why Buying Lumber Is Harder Than Selling It

    Episode Takeaway

    The lumber market continues to be driven by one simple reality: inventories remain too low while supply struggles to keep up. Despite negative sentiment around housing and the economy, buyers continue to chase wood, mills are extending order files, and freight remains a major constraint. The panel agrees that the path of least resistance for lumber prices remains higher until inventories are rebuilt and supply catches up.

    Guest: Matt Layman

    www.laymansguide.com

    Matt@laymansguide.com

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    Tiranth Amarasinghe

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    Show Contacts:

    Gregg Riley: Gregg@sitkainc.com

    Charles DeLaTorre: cdelatorre@ifpwood.com

    Matt Beymer: mattbeymer@hamptonlumber.com

    Ashley Boeckholt: ashley@sitkainc.com

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    56 分