In Pete's version of an episode about running, he noodles with Jen about the idea of cadence, and how to break our routines projects into smaller steps.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What does "cadence" mean, and how might we apply the idea to our everyday lives?
• Why is it better to not rush to the finish line, either while running or working?
• How might we return to the basics in our work and creative processes?

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Jen shares a framework with Pete for thinking about many different perspectives at once, as opposed to sticking with the first perspective you might think up.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• How might you choose to believe in a perspective that is most beneficial to yourself?
• Why is considering many different perspectives a version of sonder?
• How might we broaden our idea of multiple perspectives in order to increase our level of empathy for others?

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Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

After a small existential crisis, Pete asks Jen how he might tell the difference between being competent or complacent.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What is the relationship between boredom, competency, and complacency?
• How might the repetition of a workshop, keynote, or show create an illusion of complacency?
• Why is having a coach, mentor, or trusted friend important in the viewing of your own work?

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Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).