When the life you built starts draining you, how do you know whether to push harder or finally let it change? Dr. Erin Burgoon joins Jason Lee to explore why slowing down can feel genuinely unsafe for founders, executives, and high achievers whose identity has been shaped by achievement. Erin shares how burnout forced her to question the coaching business she had built, what happened when she gave herself a time bound experiment in rest, and why the greatest cost was not lost income but the loss of a familiar professional identity. Together, Erin and Jason discuss nervous system regulation, Internal Family Systems, the difference between excitement and durable joy, and the courage required to stop performing certainty long enough to hear what is true. This conversation offers a grounded way to recognize when grit has become avoidance, redefine what it means to provide, and make choices rooted in joy, self trust, and a deeper sense of purpose.

• (00:00:00) Why slowing down can feel permanent
• (00:05:38) How to tell discipline from avoidance
• (00:11:06) The nervous system fear beneath constant action
• (00:16:24) Creating a time bound experiment with rest
• (00:22:32) The identity cost of stepping away from work
• (00:29:06) Redefining provision, care, and a meaningful day
• (00:35:42) Treating the body with love instead of criticism
• (00:42:36) Why joy begins with nervous system safety
• (00:49:18) Joy as a spiritual center and source of clarity
• (00:56:12) Small practices that make joy more accessible

• Website: https://drerinb.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drerinb/

Jason Lee sits down with Chris Gray — marketer, co-founder of Red Palm, and Front Row Dad — to unpack the decision logic couldn't make, and the alignment work that made his gut trustworthy in the first place. Chris shares how he moves from head to body before reacting, why joy is the most vulnerable emotion, how he built AI "spiritual guides" shaped by the Bhagavad Gita, the Bible, Eckhart Tolle, and Richard Rohr — and the moment one of those agents showed him that turning surrender into a framework was just his ego grabbing the wheel. They dig into faith moves versus good moves, why the peace that goes beyond understanding requires forfeiting your right to understand, why clients are ultimately buying confidence, and how the state you decide in determines the quality of the action. Chris closes with his current living question: what does it actually look like to feel your feelings, when you've spent a lifetime equating feeling with weakness?

• (00:00:00) - Welcome to The Living Question
• (00:00:47) - The decision logic couldn't make
• (00:07:00) - Keeping someone the numbers said to cut
• (00:08:10) - Why joy is the most vulnerable emotion
• (00:12:30) - Catching unconscious reactions at home
• (00:17:45) - AI as a spiritual guide
• (00:20:17) - When surrender becomes another framework
• (00:26:50) - Selling confidence while Google rewrites the rules
• (00:33:27) - How leading from the head once protected him
• (00:38:33) - Chris's living question: learning to feel

• Connect with Chris Gray @yochrisgray — Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn
• Red Palm, Chris's marketing company for home service businesses: https://redpalm.us
• The Surrender Experiment by Michael Singer: https://www.amazon.com/Surrender-Experiment-Journey-Lifes-Perfection/dp/080414110X
• Front Row Dads: https://frontrowdads.com

Taylor Frame built a thriving 7-figure business and a deeply rooted life in Santa Cruz — then felt called to walk away from all of it. In this episode of The Living Question, Taylor sits down with Jason Lee to unpack the high-stakes decision to uproot his family with no logical case for the move, the painful eight-to-nine-month "valley" in Dana Point when the call looked like a mistake, and the second move to San Clemente where everything finally clicked. He opens up about leading his wife and kids through the uncertainty, the self-care systems — sauna, cold plunge, sunsets at the ocean, and a brotherhood of fellow founders — that kept him steady, and how he separates real intuition from survivorship bias. Taylor distills it into a framework any leader can use at a crossroads: the FOO Method — Faith, Ownership, and Optimism — and shows how the same three principles are guiding the way his 35-person agency adopts AI without laying anyone off. For founders and CEOs weighing a decision that strategy alone can't answer, this is a grounded conversation about clarity, conviction, and choosing a path you can actually live with.

• (00:00:00) When Logic Runs Out: Meet Taylor Frame
• (00:03:50) Leaving a Perfect Life in Santa Cruz
• (00:09:01) The Signals That Said "It's Time to Move"
• (00:13:20) The Dana Point Detour: When the Call Looks Wrong
• (00:20:00) Leading a Family Through the Valley
• (00:23:40) Sauna, Ocean & Brotherhood: Filling the Cup
• (00:30:30) Faith vs. Survivorship Bias
• (00:36:00) Where Logic Meets Intuition
• (00:41:39) The 4 Dials of a Good Life
• (00:47:48) The FOO Method Meets AI in Business

• Website: https://bestpracticemedia.com/
• Taylor Frame on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylor-frame/
• Kelly Greenheart on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yeskelly/
• Living Podcast Website: https://livingquestionpodcast.com/